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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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In the UK I'd be worried about being arbitrarily arrested, deported, and banned from re-entry. In the US I'd be worried about being murdered. By police. In cold blood.

It's actually easy to avoid getting killed. Simply don't chase, harass, attempt to run over, or assault LEOs doing their jobs Hope that helps.

Americans have been killed by American cops without doing those things whose absence you claim will prevent being killed.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Got it. Opinions are wrong if we have them, but you should be embraced with open arms if you have them about our country. https://dailycaller.com/2026/06/05/jd-vance-henry-nowak-kirp...

Our VP saying he's upset at both the specific case and the causes thereof of a horrifically botched UK police job.... means... what? Have you listened to your leaders? ever? We do! von der Lyon is my favorite!

you might notice that we don’t ban people at the border for being critical of our politicians.

Despite not banging our chests about free speech quite so much.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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thought the culture was “free speech” if you’re denied at the border for expressing speech online at some historic point (non-violent) then how can “respecting the culture” work? When I am in Saudi Arabia, I don’t wear shorts out of respect for their culture; but they don’t go through my instagram looking for pictures of me in shorts.

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But other countries allow you to do so, yet you claim that the US is a bastion of free speech?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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At least you can walk in with a phone reset to factory settings, and once you cross the border restore from the cloud (or home server like me). In UK you can be stopped walking on the sidewalk. It's much more dystopian in UK.

There are no sidewalks in the UK, even more dystopian!

Did you mean the US or is the joke wooshing on me?

Edit: ah, because the word is pavement in British English :).

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Putting aside that the source for this is a Reddit post linking to screenshots of text, as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true. Anyone can report anyone else to "the authorities" for anything. It doesn't mean the unnamed authorities act on it. It's also quite strange that Yoti (if this isn't just a hoax) don't specify which policing unit is recieving…

> as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true.

Have you seen the reputations of most "journalists" these days? Several UK newspapers frequently repost stories from forums like reddit and mumsnet.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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I think you have your numbers backwards regarding health. The US spends more (16% Vs 10 GDP), but preventable mortality, life expectancy, people living with chronic conditions etc are all worse than other developed nations: https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2023/05/26/a-comparative-ana... Plus the risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US - you are 400% to 600% more likely to be murdered in the US than the…

> risk of being a victim of violence is higher in the US You really gotta look at how those numbers break down. Who's killing who and where. Be in the right places and you're much safer than anywhere in Europe

Have you considered doing the same in reverse?

Because sure, if you look at the right parts of the US, you can find zero homicide rate due to there not being any residents. You can also do this in Europe. It tells you nothing.

What may give you a hint about relative safety is that the UK police don't bother with being regularly equipped with firearms, because they don't need to be.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

Americans perception of themselves always baffles me. You have police brutality regularly, ICE raids shooting protestors and deporting people (inc those with the right to be there) to El Salvador, people who write critical articles of Israel denied visas, servicemen dying in the Middle East, your president openly stealing from your government via slush funds and his sons, and so little accountability that the only pe…

It's all extrapolated from a few articles where someone in Germany or the UK is arrested, but if you go beyond the tabloids it turns out that the person threatened to harm or kill someone online (which is not free speech in most European countries for obvious reasons).

I have lived in European countries all my life (except for ~6 months in Australia) and let's say I'm opinionated, I have never feared that the country I lived in or its authorities would arrest me or harm me otherwise. Of course, there are certain boundaries - you don't threaten someone, etc. But once you cross those lines, you are not interested in free speech anyway, only intimidating people or inciting hate.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Putting aside that the source for this is a Reddit post linking to screenshots of text, as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true. Anyone can report anyone else to "the authorities" for anything. It doesn't mean the unnamed authorities act on it. It's also quite strange that Yoti (if this isn't just a hoax) don't specify which policing unit is recieving…

> as opposed to a news site where a journalist would have to stake their reputation on the story being true. Have you seen the reputations of most "journalists" these days? Several UK newspapers frequently repost stories from forums like reddit and mumsnet.

And you can choose not to read their journalism. That's the value in having a reputation.

And I'll remind you that the alternative in this case is just believing the random redditor's version of events.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Not really, not all threat models are the same. Submitting face verification is different to Google knowing my location at all times.

That's fair and I do agree Google is the biggest threat. It's just that all these ID verifications are already tying you with Google (or Apple) in most cases

It was an example that’s not particularly bound to me. I use a cheap burner android for shitware smarthome apps I need to setup devices before they get adopted by Home Assistant - if I cared about specifically ID association with gapps, I’d probably use my burner for that too.

But I’m also under no illusion that Google has better analytics sources.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Americans perception of themselves always baffles me. You have police brutality regularly, ICE raids shooting protestors and deporting people (inc those with the right to be there) to El Salvador, people who write critical articles of Israel denied visas, servicemen dying in the Middle East, your president openly stealing from your government via slush funds and his sons, and so little accountability that the only pe…

I am an atheist and any country were a leader claims their country to be Christian is a no go for me. Is the separation of church and state a joke to Americans? It was pretty funny because right next to Trump they had a man/woman in a Easter bunny suit.

I am also an atheist. Our country has christian prime ministers in the past. It was not a problem, because virtually all the christians that are left in our country (the majority of people are atheists of agnostics these days) believe in a separation of church and state.

It is not about christianity. Authoritarian and populist leaders will always coopt/corrupt whatever is convenient for them. Christianity, socialism, capitalism, whatever works to rally a substantial portion of the population.

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