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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Watching all UK folks in denial is too funny.

It's gaming communities too. There is a massive mindset overlap between gamers and average UK residents. They both think that all the dystopia is for the greater good, is never abused, and if you fall victim to it, you must have been doing something dodgy to deserve it.

Communities like this have definitely been manipulated into complicity by establishment interests ie through media.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yea cause we throw more money at it. Our facilities are far superior. In California where I live though folks with little money get very subsidized healthcare that is cheaper than NHS taxes.

Outcomes are worse in the US, perhaps you should reevaluate your assumptions.

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

> Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens

The absolute gall of saying this, on this point in in particular, with all that has happened over the past 1.5 years in the US... Gobsmacked

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

> Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. This is precisely the reason why I don't want to visit the US at the moment. The USA immigration officers can ask me to forfeit my phone's password and look at all my photos, documents, messages, call logs etc, WITHOUT SUSPICION. Some of that data can even stay on their servers for decades, and who knows if i…

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Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Europe has many many different jurisdictions. Even if you take the European Union alone and ignore all the other European countries, the EU only legislates over a subset of things for member countries.

Much less the UK.

I'm not sure how much less it is than, say, Bosnia, Serbia, Belarus, Kosovo...

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yep, police can simply ask anyone for their passwords and if you don't give it up they can put you in jail. I won't be visiting. Despite many flaws, the US has some damn good rights for its citizens compared to the rest of the world.

You are aware of the fact that you essentially have no rights at border crossings, right? Even if you are a US citizen entering the US. This is why many companies have procedures for when employees visit certain countries, including the US. For instance that you are not allowed to bring your personal phone, your personal and work laptop or any medium that can hold sensitive or proprietary information.

Not sure if related but this is my story. I am Spanish. When leaving SF back to Europe from a Google IO, after control, waiting to scan my luggage, an officer stood besides me and started speaking in Spanish besides me.

The first minute my brain didn’t register because though Spanish is my mother tongue, I guess it was not ready for that. The police officer started to get irritated. Eventually my brain switched, I had a chat with him and he left.

I was totally freaked out the rest of the time, till the moment I boarded.

Only then I realized how frail our rights are when you are abroad.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Yep but they live with you for life on a DBS check, and you know that we brought up in a court of law if anything else happens to be against your favor

1. That is one reason why the rules were changed to reduce the level of recoding 2. It would only be disclosed on an enhanced DBS check, not basic or standard. This also applies to all other information the police have on you, not just NCHIs. This is just like the rules for disclosing something like a caution issued to someone in your household, an aquittal, allegations made against you, parking and speeding tickets…

The right level of recording of non crime is zero wdym reduced?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

#208

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

The only hit I get for "non-crime cybersecurity incident" is this very thread. Would you care to elaborate what you mean?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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This is totally unacceptable. But going to the hassle of running GrapheneOS and then using it to try and submit facial scans to combine your identity with your PSN account just seems so pointless.

Not really, not all threat models are the same. Submitting face verification is different to Google knowing my location at all times.

That's fair and I do agree Google is the biggest threat. It's just that all these ID verifications are already tying you with Google (or Apple) in most cases

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Just don't visit USA and you will be fine.

Not practical in many cases. I'm starting a new job soon and have to visit the US. No way am I saying no to that (way too good a job). I'll probably just buy a decoy phone for the border.

Start setting up profiles ASAP, you want a plausible amount of history for a decoy.
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