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Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Is it ok if I used a compiler and didn't write the assembly code by hand?

It's hard to tell if you're mocking the parent's fallacy or contributing to it.

I suppose the argument being made is more about the meaning of human made rather than GenAI.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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Time and time again I see these people spazzing out about human made work, as though humans should have to do any work at all that they don't freely choose to! Like, there's some moral puritan value to toiling in the code mines until you wither and die.

We're finally approaching a world where humans could work less and the only thought people can think about is how jobs might go away or some other such bullshit. Capitalist Realism has gotten so bad that I've seen anarchists cheering on copyright law and "so called" leftists wishing for the halcyon days of 30 years ago - just like their parents did in the 90s.

It's wild how conservative of an era we're in right now.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

#73
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When slop-jockeys get so triggered they pretend they can't even comprehend the premise and start to hyperfixate on semantics and pedantism you know it's a good idea.

the work featured is extremely mediocre and the "human made" label feels forced

Work generated by AI is extremely mediocre, and the entire cult of enthusiasm around it is forced. The GenAI cult can kindly fuck off to their AI waifus and leave those of us who still find value in being human alone.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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I don't mean to piss on your parade but llm generation is human output just like a car welded by robots is a human product. This contrived dualism between llm generated things and human generated things makes the llm into an independent agent (it is not, it is a statistical approximator) and denies the human origin of automated creations. do we say numbers calculated by hand are less authentic than by boolean logic?…

When people say "hand-made furniture", everyone knows what that means. No one is struggling with the definition of "human-made work" except those who seem offended by its existence.

My thoughts are, apparently, a threat to OpenAI's valuation. lol.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

#75

I find it interesting how the techies are suddenly losing their minds over technology. We have killed a ton of other people’s jobs over the last few decades and made excellent money doing so. Now it seems it’s our turn

Good. I wish we would kill 100% of the "jobs" out there and we could all start working on the things that we want instead of spending the best years of our lives doing stupid bullshit.

We should work to eliminate all work. That should be something we strive towards. The end of work you don't want to do.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

#76

I find it interesting how the techies are suddenly losing their minds over technology. We have killed a ton of other people’s jobs over the last few decades and made excellent money doing so. Now it seems it’s our turn

Good. I wish we would kill 100% of the "jobs" out there and we could all start working on the things that we want instead of spending the best years of our lives doing stupid bullshit. We should work to eliminate all work. That should be something we strive towards. The end of work you don't want to do.

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Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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I think you know the answer :rolleyes: Hopefully things are not so bad yet that it's an unlikely situation

I don't know the answer, so please do enlighten.

Any dependency on a vibe-coded library, however indirect, makes an application not 100% human made (since the application relies on the library for some of its featutes).

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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post #77
post #70

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I don't know the answer, so please do enlighten.

Any dependency on a vibe-coded library, however indirect, makes an application not 100% human made (since the application relies on the library for some of its featutes).

If that's going to be your definition, then it's going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible to have a 100% human made program, unless you've personally hand-coded the entire OS, or you've verified beyond doubt that no vibe-coded dependency exist in the entire dependency chain - both build and runtime, direct and indirect.

I'm not sure how feasible verification of that would be, unless we have some "certified 100% human" certification program of some sort, with an external auditing agency or something - because you can't trust humans, they will 100% lie.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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How is digital intelligence different from every technology that has ever and will ever exist, in your comment? Why does your comment apply to it, and not to other things (nukes, bioweapons, slot machines)? Is every technology inherently worth celebrating?

Your comment begs the question. It's worth celebrating because it's a great achievement because you said so.

Re: Let's celebrate work that is 100% human-made

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I find it interesting how the techies are suddenly losing their minds over technology. We have killed a ton of other people’s jobs over the last few decades and made excellent money doing so. Now it seems it’s our turn

Good. I wish we would kill 100% of the "jobs" out there and we could all start working on the things that we want instead of spending the best years of our lives doing stupid bullshit. We should work to eliminate all work. That should be something we strive towards. The end of work you don't want to do.

I don't think it's possible to infer your definition of "work" from what you wrote.

If you are doing something, that's work. You are against doing things you don't like. That's a different topic.

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