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New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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Are data centers a new and mysterious technology?

The mad rush to build datacenters at this unprecedented scale is already wreaking havoc on the consumer economy. The needs of everyday people are far more important than the whims of a few trillion dollar tech companies run by billioinaires.

That's a fair complaint, but banning data centers in NY isn't going to make RAM or GPU prices cheaper.

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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Are data centers a new and mysterious technology?

There's a serious concern that we're in a bubble and many of the pending disruptions to land use and infrastructure might be soon abandoned with no one left to clean up the mess

How much land do data center use and of which type of land?

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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There's a serious concern that we're in a bubble and many of the pending disruptions to land use and infrastructure might be soon abandoned with no one left to clean up the mess

What mess? It's a big empty metal box with a heck of an HVAC system and a parking lot sized for industrial use. Just about any less specialized use could be pivoted to at any point during or after construction. These things only become static "messes" or "blighted" because regulation prevents fire sale and pivot to a new use from being viable. Edit: People really seem to be ignoring the sentence prior to this edit. F…

Or if nobody wants to buy them

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

#64

I clicked the article expecting to see some feel-good political grandstanding (I'm a bit cynical these days) but honestly, this seems like a decent approach. Pause approvals for a year giving breathing room for researching the impacts, and hopefully address them.

I'm surprised by your interpretation. As a deliberately polarizing analogy, the first Trump administration pushed for a policy that boiled down to the same principle: pause immigration from certain places "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

I don't think anyone here would describe that example as a good-faith policy. I feel the same goes for the NY bill. It's not a sincere attempt to consider the pros and cons, it's just an effort to shut down unpopular projects to appease the electorate. Maybe that's right, but no need to pretend it's anything more.

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

#65

Populist nonsense like this is all that New York passes. Data Centers have minimal impact, provides some jobs, and New York needs to upgrade their power system and build more power plants anyways.

> Data Centers have minimal impact

50k residents of Lake Tahoe need to find a new source of electricity now that their power provider is planning to feed a nearby data center[0].

0: https://fortune.com/2026/05/12/lake-tahoe-data-center-49000-...

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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I don't get it, nyc wants to add government programs, they obviously need to tax something. Here come massive corps willing to invest a ton of money, just tax them at some reasonable rate and voila, you can now pay for city funded grocery stores or whatever

So by your logic if a massive company came and said they want to setup an oil refinery or coal power plant you'd say they should say yes just because they could get tax revenue? You always have to way the pros and cons of such massive projects. Plus, this isn't a ban it's just a one year moratorium so impact etc can be studied.

A datacenter ranks close to zero on the pollution scale. By comparison a golf course looks like a Superfund site.

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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You can't be serious? I hope I'm just missing the joke

To have an equivalent capacity of DCs in space would require such astronomical costs there is 0 chance it would be profitable esp considering how fast GPUs deprecate

How about we start with actually finishing all the datacenters we've started (many if not most are unstarted, paused or outright cancelled)?

Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What mess? It's a big empty metal box with a heck of an HVAC system and a parking lot sized for industrial use. Just about any less specialized use could be pivoted to at any point during or after construction. These things only become static "messes" or "blighted" because regulation prevents fire sale and pivot to a new use from being viable. Edit: People really seem to be ignoring the sentence prior to this edit. F…

Or if nobody wants to buy them

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Re: New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

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I clicked the article expecting to see some feel-good political grandstanding (I'm a bit cynical these days) but honestly, this seems like a decent approach. Pause approvals for a year giving breathing room for researching the impacts, and hopefully address them.

Are data centers a new and mysterious technology?

Cars were not a new technology either when they went nuts on highway infrastructure which ruined the city centers. Perhaps if they had slowed down and studied the impacts before bulldozing neighborhood for highways some damage might have been prevented.
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