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Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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> thinking the japs will invade from the sea Be mindful of using terms that are widely recognized as racial slurs.

Some 50,000 of OP's father's compatriots were killed by the Japanese, the survivors can call the invaders what they wish.

OP isn't OP's father, and wasn't alive during WW2

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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In this kind of discussion, you cannot disentangle the fate Singapore from Malaysia. The comparison between the two is interesting. When Singapore was squirted out from Malaysia in 1965, it had no natural resources, surrounded by hostile Muslim nations ( though not as bad as Israel, but still), and no one to depend on, except themselves. The Malaysian Ringgit vs Singapore dollars was 1 to 1 back then in 1970s. And no…

TBH if the government didn't implements these racial policies, I think Malaysia will be worst off - it will stuck in a civil war between the races like many other countries.

But I do think many of those policies are no longer needed - many of the Malays are more educated and smarter compared to 50 years ago. Right now those policies likely doing more harm than good - driving brain-drain and limiting economy growth, but any government try to remove those policies is just suicidal.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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> thinking the japs will invade from the sea Be mindful of using terms that are widely recognized as racial slurs.

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But it's not somebody who directly lived through it. Even the father's account was well after the war.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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That’s a different kind of misleading narrative, the “$PLACE was rich in pre-modern times” narrative. Places decline. Heck, by the middle ages, Rome’s population had dropped to just 30,000.

>Ptolemy’s maps of the world I can assure you Ptolemy never been to India let alone Singapore. But hey you just deleted your Ptolemy narrative, are you misleading a narrative? Ironically although Ptolemy never been to Singapore it's apparently recorded in his book as Sabana [1]. Perhaps that the reason you deleted your Ptolemy entry. It's also recorded in ancient Chinese record in the 3rd CE Chinese traveller's recor…

I edited because I realized Rome was a much easier example. But at least according to Wikipedia, chittagong was one of the major seaports of the ancient world and appeared on Ptolemy’s world map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Chittagong. The map was based on Greek knowledge of Asia through trade. But Ptolemy also described the Malay peninsula.

As to your other point, again, you’re overlooking that places change over time. The Arabs built a huge civilization a thousand years ago. But by the 19th century, there wasn’t much left.

What was the population of what is now Singapore when Raffles landed there? Wikipedia says that under the Sultanate the population was under 1,000. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Singapore

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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Lee Kuan Yew is praised by Western academia because of 'benevolent authoritarianism' — in other words, the idea that a small elite should rule over the workers. In fact, his policies were authoritarian and dictatorial. Despite Singapore's geographical advantages, Lee's achievement in transforming it into a great financial hub is certainly a testament to his capability. However, when you consider his track record 'Ope…

Please modify your AI writing prompt to avoid semicolons, and the EM dash.

I'm curious: why are people told not to use the em dash and the semicolon? I honestly don't know.

When I learned English writing, I was taught to use an em dash after words like 'by the way' or 'to add to that' — as a kind of aside. For hyphens, I was taught to use them in compound words. And for semicolons, I learned to use them when moving on to the next sentence within the same clause.

Actually, this is formal writing — techniques I learned in graduate school. Is this 'AI writing'?

It's hard because I'm not a native speaker.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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Lee Kuan Yew is praised by Western academia because of 'benevolent authoritarianism' — in other words, the idea that a small elite should rule over the workers. In fact, his policies were authoritarian and dictatorial. Despite Singapore's geographical advantages, Lee's achievement in transforming it into a great financial hub is certainly a testament to his capability. However, when you consider his track record 'Ope…

I grew up in the former capital of a country that was colonized by the British and one thing that stood out to me while I was studying the history of my city was how much the colonial structure survived in terms of vested interest and avenues of power exercised, including corruption. I learned how the most of the agents of the crown that came to my town were largely Scottish and Irish in ethnicity, taking a post here…

> Such a person is very rare and even rarer is for someone like that to rise to a position of power.

Even more dangerously, I think they're even rarer than people who can convincingly pretend to be one. So even if you go looking for such a person you're heading into the danger zone.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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Please modify your AI writing prompt to avoid semicolons, and the EM dash.

I'm curious: why are people told not to use the em dash and the semicolon? I honestly don't know. When I learned English writing, I was taught to use an em dash after words like 'by the way' or 'to add to that' — as a kind of aside. For hyphens, I was taught to use them in compound words. And for semicolons, I learned to use them when moving on to the next sentence within the same clause. Actually, this is formal wri…

It's entirely because it's one of the more obvious tells of AI writing. Most keyboards don't have an easy way to enter an em-dash, so they haven't been part of casual conversation for... decades I guess. AI has no such restrictions, and is trained on formal writing, so it uses them commonly. Similar but less strongly for semicolons. Most people just don't know how to use them.

Regardless of whether you're using AI (please don't btw) or coming by your em-dashes honestly, people who fixate on trivial obvious cues will notice your em-dashes and assume you're using it.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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Not sure about Singapore but Malaysia's racism is not complicated. It is discrimination into law. It makes things rather clear. About discourse of course there is not discussion to have.

The most amusing part of Malaysia's discrimination is in the term "bhumiputra," which is Sanskrit for "son of the soil," but today it's used for Malay muslim. All these lands were Dharmic originally, all the way to Japan, before the various cults arrived.

We are all migrants. No exception.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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I have no idea and probably not, but it is a bit more complex than that. There isn't any particular rule saying that the only functional democratic model is multi-party democracy. One could imagine a successful democratic model with one party allowing diverse internal factions, for example. It is really hard to get a read on China, but their success raises some interesting questions of how exactly their internal part…

From what I've read (and this may very well be outdated), Singapore is generally democratic, but the PAP does such a good job of running the country that people don't vote for other parties.

The Chinese Communist Party and United Russia might say the same thing.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew's Singapore Story (2023)

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In this kind of discussion, you cannot disentangle the fate Singapore from Malaysia. The comparison between the two is interesting. When Singapore was squirted out from Malaysia in 1965, it had no natural resources, surrounded by hostile Muslim nations ( though not as bad as Israel, but still), and no one to depend on, except themselves. The Malaysian Ringgit vs Singapore dollars was 1 to 1 back then in 1970s. And no…

>surrounded by hostile Muslim nations ( though not as bad as Israel, but still) What a bizarre non-sequitur.

How so?
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