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Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#101

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im failing to see the connection >standard pixel tracking, linked to meta (js , web) >Meta exploited Android's localhost (os level)

- Instagram/Facebook app listening on localhost port X. - A website running JS on the browser tries to connect to localhost port X. If it succeeds it's now talking to Zuck's app. - The JS can report whatever it wants to the app, and the app knows the identity of the browsing user, because ~100% of the time it's the user also logged into the app(s).

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Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#102
post #48

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Not at all to defend Meta but "a feature that allows software developers to test applications" is a dubious definition of localhost. I also can't come up with a better one.

"on the device itself"

Localhost is “on the device itself”, but so is an installed App and files and user settings.

This is also missing a lot of what localhost means in this context (networking, violation of the usually way similar apps and websites work on an Android device, etc).

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#103
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that's definitely a big question and i don't pretend to have enough expertise to answer fully; however, i will point to the Ontario Teacher's Pension Plan which is (per Wikipedia[1]) "one of the world's largest institutional investors [...] over $266 billion in net assets, with a one-year total-fund net return of 9.4%, and a 7.4% 10-year total-fund net return". the union runs their own investment fund; it's an extens…

That is only a pension plan. It provides no insurance to teachers who are still employed.

it's an example of how a union can use collective financial power to fund the services they offer to their members. a software engineer's union could prioritize income insurance over retirement.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#104

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Here is the explicit definition of localhost. The term "localhost" refers to the default entry in all modern operating system host files. By default modern operating systems provide a hosts file that provides domain name resolution without reliance upon the Domain Name System (DNS) protocol. By default these host files typically ship with one entry, a domain named "localhost" that points to IPv4 loopback interface 12…

Sure, but you lost the non technical audience by the end of the first sentence.

The only audience qualified to make technical decisions.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#105
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> Meta must face a lawsuit alleging that it secretly tracked Android users' browsing activity on mobile websites that embedded Meta's analytics pixel, and linked that activity to users' identities, a federal judge ruled Monday. > The decision, issued by U.S. District Court Judge Rita Lin in San Francisco, grew out of a class-action complaint initially brought last June by California resident Devin Rose (and later joi…

Not at all to defend Meta but "a feature that allows software developers to test applications" is a dubious definition of localhost. I also can't come up with a better one.

Yes I was totally confused as that's not what I understood by localhost

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#106

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Start one. Unions are worker owned. You could also join the IWW.

Unions in the US are nerfed, by law.

unless your union involves being the law, then they can do literally anything.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#107

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Here is the explicit definition of localhost. The term "localhost" refers to the default entry in all modern operating system host files. By default modern operating systems provide a hosts file that provides domain name resolution without reliance upon the Domain Name System (DNS) protocol. By default these host files typically ship with one entry, a domain named "localhost" that points to IPv4 loopback interface 12…

Sure, but you lost the non technical audience by the end of the first sentence.

Then what are we talking about? If this is only about comfort of people who don't give a shit anyways then just relate it to money or cartoons or whatever and walk away. It just doesn't matter.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#108
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Chrome and Firefox have deployed / are deploying local-network-access which prompts the user when apps try this.

I just discovered that MacOS was blocking Firefox from connecting to devices on my LAN - there's per-app toggle in system settings. Access to my router's web interface was not blocked (understandably) but this left me rather confused for a while.

This also got me on my partner's Macbook. For the longest time I couldn't figure out why I could access my local services on (Safari? I forget which one actually worked) but not on Firefox/Chrome.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#109

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Start one. Unions are worker owned. You could also join the IWW.

are there examples of unions that have started around a focus on the ethics of the services they provide? unions traditionally start locally, around issues for which the locality is a hotspot, which is why they usually focus on pay and working conditions. it's also easier to get a large group to agree on a set of improvements to working conditions vs a set of ethical boundaries.

actually, it looks like this is happening inside Google right now. DeepMind workers are unionizing, and most of their demands revolve around ethical boundaries and the right to refuse to contribute based on ethical grounds.

Re: Ask HN: So what happened to Facebook "localhost" tracking?

#110
post #84

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It's a true statement but I'm not sure it gives a good impression of what localhost actually is.

If the biggest issue you found in the article is the localhost gloss, Meta probably got off easy.

I never said that.
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