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Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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> wasted hours editing Editing is a craft. You have to watch everything, otherwise you don't know what you have. A machine organising stringouts and selects can work for interviews, but not for action. But even then it is only parsing your media for semantic intent. It misses the way things are said, which often imparts a different meaning. You can use AI features for editing. But it is unlikely you will be making an…

I work professionally in commercials. You literally wrote the very solid counter argument into your own comment. For interviews, this saves hundreds of hours. Giant amounts of social content are now interview-like, including podcasts. Your argument makes little sense to me. For narrative editing, this is a minor help. For interview-like content it cuts work by 30-70% maybe. its probably a gamechanger.

So you are satisfied with work where you have not watched all of the material? Fine if that works for you, but I would not think I'd have done a good job.

If something has compiled some great selects for me, I only have material based on what is said. But I don't know how it is said - which to me is everything. Yes, this goes for podcasts too. What I make just won't be as good as if I'd have taken the time to go through everything.

I even notice this with things like NBA highlights. It's clear the editor (or bot) never watched the game. There were moments in it that are interesting and significant. Even small incidents that are actually clutch to the outcome of the match. But it is clear they've quickly compiled all of the goals and bashed out something mediocre which does not tell the story.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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I’ve haven’t had anywhere near as much friction as you are reporting so I have no idea what is happening on macOS.

I know people who never use undo. If you haven’t run into these issues, that does not tell me much, unless you use this software the same way I do.

That’s a terrible analogy because you’re describing bugs and not usage patterns.

• UI freezes for a second or two when you switch to Fusion. - that’s weird

• If you adjust speed in a Fusion node, timeline clip remains the same length, so if you slow it down 2x you can only see the first half. To say Fusion in general is half-baked is to be very, very generous. - Again never had this issue

• Export location gets reset every launch. - It remembers my last export settings per project

• Can’t copy-paste a node or its settings, in case you want to test between two different configurations. - I have copy pasted many fusion and color nodes without issues

Have you reported these issues to Black Magic?

I have used a lot of editing software like old school Final Cut Pro, premiere, Sony Vegas (yuck!) and even movie maker. Resolve in my opinion has the least amount of friction to use. What do you use to edit?

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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Isn’t your (b) only because of the addition of a random seed?

LLM inference can be implemented in a way where nondeterminism depends only on the random seed, but that's not common. It ends up being more efficient/easier to implement kernels whose exact results depend on how many other prompts are being processed in parallel. See https://thinkingmachines.ai/blog/defeating-nondeterminism-in... for a pretty extensive exploration.

That's still nondeterminism as an implementation choice, rather than as a fundamental limitation of the technology.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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I know people who never use undo. If you haven’t run into these issues, that does not tell me much, unless you use this software the same way I do.

That’s a terrible analogy because you’re describing bugs and not usage patterns. • UI freezes for a second or two when you switch to Fusion. - that’s weird • If you adjust speed in a Fusion node, timeline clip remains the same length, so if you slow it down 2x you can only see the first half. To say Fusion in general is half-baked is to be very, very generous. - Again never had this issue • Export location gets reset…

> Again never had this issue

Again, if Fusion implementation on Windows is different that this is not an issue, that is an even bigger red flag.

> Have you reported these issues to Black Magic?

No, there’s too many, and I can’t be bothered. Pretty old threads about it can be found online. Nothing changes.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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I see, I have always used it on windows and never on MacOS so that could be the source of your issues.

If behaviors I listed in the previous comment are all different on Windows, that’s an even bigger red flag.

Performance, clipboard behaviour, and file browser persistence seem like fairly typical OS-specific issues. Obviously not great if they're not properly testing macOS, but I don't think it's an "even bigger red flag" for those to be OS-specific.

Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me, like how Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time, and if I move something with arrow keys I'd expect that to be one "movement" once I stop rather than one per key repeat. Whether it's grouping too aggressively to the point of being recognized as an issue is probably down to personal preference, though I would lean towards agreeing that less grouping would be better.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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That’s a terrible analogy because you’re describing bugs and not usage patterns. • UI freezes for a second or two when you switch to Fusion. - that’s weird • If you adjust speed in a Fusion node, timeline clip remains the same length, so if you slow it down 2x you can only see the first half. To say Fusion in general is half-baked is to be very, very generous. - Again never had this issue • Export location gets reset…

> Again never had this issue Again, if Fusion implementation on Windows is different that this is not an issue, that is an even bigger red flag. > Have you reported these issues to Black Magic? No, there’s too many, and I can’t be bothered. Pretty old threads about it can be found online. Nothing changes.

So what do you recommend for video editing?

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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> Again never had this issue Again, if Fusion implementation on Windows is different that this is not an issue, that is an even bigger red flag. > Have you reported these issues to Black Magic? No, there’s too many, and I can’t be bothered. Pretty old threads about it can be found online. Nothing changes.

So what do you recommend for video editing?

What I do now can be done using a mix of free software (ffmpeg, etc.) and if I were to go pro and have less time for tinkering then it’d be FCP for me.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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If behaviors I listed in the previous comment are all different on Windows, that’s an even bigger red flag.

Performance, clipboard behaviour, and file browser persistence seem like fairly typical OS-specific issues. Obviously not great if they're not properly testing macOS, but I don't think it's an "even bigger red flag" for those to be OS-specific. Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me, like how Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time, and if I move…

> Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me

I explained how it happens. Intentional or not, it just takes us between buggy software and poorly designed software and even then losing changes (not all of what is undone is redone and you are left in an inconsistent state) remains a bug.

> Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time

Retyping text is not comparable to readjusting different fine color controls on different pages of the UI across different nodes.

By comparison, the aforementioned RawTherapee (despite being powered by Qt and looking pretty barren) in fact works more reliably with no such issues, and it’s also cross-platform software that is free to boot.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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post #265

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Performance, clipboard behaviour, and file browser persistence seem like fairly typical OS-specific issues. Obviously not great if they're not properly testing macOS, but I don't think it's an "even bigger red flag" for those to be OS-specific. Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me, like how Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time, and if I move…

> Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me I explained how it happens. Intentional or not, it just takes us between buggy software and poorly designed software and even then losing changes (not all of what is undone is redone and you are left in an inconsistent state) remains a bug. > Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time Retyping text is not comp…

> The aforementioned RawTherapee has no such issues

I don't mean to claim that the mentioned issues are unavoidable or that some piece of software is more likely than not to have these issues, just that when there are OS-specific issues it's this kind of thing I expect. Clipboard handling is pretty much an entirely different implementation on each platform unless you're using something like Electron that already handles it for you, for instance.

Re: DaVinci Resolve 21

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> Grouping close-together changes of the same control for undo sounds probably intentional to me I explained how it happens. Intentional or not, it just takes us between buggy software and poorly designed software and even then losing changes (not all of what is undone is redone and you are left in an inconsistent state) remains a bug. > Ctrl+Z in a textbox doesn't go one character at a time Retyping text is not comp…

> The aforementioned RawTherapee has no such issues I don't mean to claim that the mentioned issues are unavoidable or that some piece of software is more likely than not to have these issues, just that when there are OS-specific issues it's this kind of thing I expect. Clipboard handling is pretty much an entirely different implementation on each platform unless you're using something like Electron that already hand…

There’s no use case for system clipboard, given it’s a monolithic piece of software that doesn’t allow multiple projects to be simultaneously open in different instances. There’s nowhere else to paste except the same window.

Meanwhile, open-source, non-Electron, multi-platform software that handles copy-paste via system clipboard exists just fine (VCV Rack comes to mind).

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