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Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by kmfrk »

AYBABTME wrote: post #55

Something missing as cultural context is that deepfake, involuntary "porn", and all sorts of abuse of personal image, are a rampant and omnipresent problem in Korea. Many things are great here, but the sexual landscape when it comes to men versus women and kids, is nasty. You can't really apply a Western mindset to this without understanding just how messed up some of that stuff is. So whatever you think of the mecha…

The scale of deepfakes in Korea is horrifying: https://www.securityhero.io/state-of-deepfakes/#targeted-ind....

And in 2024, someone made a viral map with reports of deepfakes in schools: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/society/20240830/dee....

It's very similar to age verification where there's a genuinely horrible problem that we're getting a terrible solution to by people who seemingly don't understand the internet. And the finger on the monkey's paw curls.

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Post by yonaguska »

jibal wrote: post #65
js8 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's very reductionist, and itself a kind of right-wing (authoritarian) idea - all politicians are corrupt so there is no meaningful way to change things.

Indeed. Aside from being extraordinarily intellectually lazy, bothsidesing actually enables corruption by failing to identify it, or failing to distinguish degrees of corruption that are so severe as to be more differences in kind than differences in degree. And thus in the U.S. we get Trump and his entire cabinet, Clarence Thomas and the rest of the Federalist Society, the Kochs, money pouring into elections via Cit…

It's not intellectually lazy, it's being intellectually tired.

Both parties only every get anything done in this country when it comes to voting to restrict our rights. Ideologically, I'm slightly right leaning. My primary value is individual rights are more important. But if I could, I would vote for Ron Wyden(D) despite the fact that I disagree with many of his positions, he's still one of the few that has a spine to oppose things like the federal spying apparatus.

I just don't see the point of investing myself in caring when 98 percent of our reps just really don't care and only focus on manufacturing outrage around wedge issues that they can't or won't actually address so that they can keep their jobs and continue to accrue massive amounts of wealth from lobbying and insider trading. We get Trump because the system is so thoroughly broken on both sides and enough people are frustrated the point that they are "protest" voting.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by prmoustache »

jdw64 wrote: post #54
prodigycorp wrote: post #27

Korea is backwards in technology in every possible way. - For the longest time, you needed a windows computer to access any sort of government or banking service, and it's still the case for most services - Because of the reliance on crappy windows laptops, you see everyone who uses a laptop carries an external mouse around to places like coffee shops (bc their trackpads suck) - the de-facto document format are crapp…

You're right. This stems from the characteristics of a small country. In fact, in Korea, Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people use, and its image is not good. But the overall situation you described is basically a combination of a chaebol-centered, family-run system of national governance, layered on top of large corporate oligarchy. Within that structure, the problem becomes one of survival…

> Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people

I think it has been the case globally since Elon Musk converted it into a neo-nazi propaganda platform.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by deaux »

zuzululu wrote: post #77
DeathArrow wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The problem is that using an AI censorship tool requires purchasing a solution from a specific vendor. This smells of corruption.

It's essentially a takedown of Korean imageboards and forums where political memes, especially of the current president, is very popular. They are fully aware that these operators will not be able to afford the hardware and sustain their public squares by requiring a ridiculous ordinance targeting them. I see GP is downplaying this very fact that its the "norm" in Korea and I can tell you that it's not. Korea has enj…

You're the one downplaying here. How many other non-Islamic countries where porn is entirely banned with the websites blocked? Doing deep packet inspection by default? (The difficulty of getting around this isn't very relevant)

Besides authoritarian states and the US, how many where the government can read along in the most popular chat app? Can, say, the Belgium government read along with all messages on Whatsapp?

How many where they also know exactly who is sending that message due to mandatory real identity verification? Even if the Belgian government can't read the Whatsapp message content that Belgians send, do they by definition have the person's identity directly linked to the message?

No to all of the above. South Korea is an extreme outlier and this has been the status quo for years. Your focus on the "meme of the president", despite there being little evidence that this is the target, gives away that you're pushing an untrue narrative here. The GP has painted an accurate picture: all the things I mentioned above have been around for more than a decade across both blue and red governments, neither of them meaningfully opposing it.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by mx7zysuj4xew »

Gigachad wrote: post #46
october8140 wrote: post #23

The future is self hosted private invite only communities of vetted real life humans, likely done in person.

That's pretty much the present today. Tbh I'm fine with the public internet just dying off at this point and people going back to their local smaller scale groups.

I'd prefer the 2011/2012 era before mass moderation was possible and before people began policing for "toxicity". We still had the culture and vestiges of freedom of the old web, alongside with the network effect of millions of "normal" people joining in the conversation through their iphones

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by deaux »

prodigycorp wrote: post #27

Korea is backwards in technology in every possible way. - For the longest time, you needed a windows computer to access any sort of government or banking service, and it's still the case for most services - Because of the reliance on crappy windows laptops, you see everyone who uses a laptop carries an external mouse around to places like coffee shops (bc their trackpads suck) - the de-facto document format are crapp…

I agree with some of them. Others need much more nuance.

> - External map providers were iced out of hte market until this past year

This was a positive for literally every Korean resident and only a negative for Google shareholders and a few tourists who had to download a local maps app. Boohoo, politicians doing things benefiting their people.

> - You need a phone number to sign up for literally anything.

The reality is that this also has many upsides. Admitting this doesn't do well on HN though. The truth is that it's a defensible tradeoff, you can disagree with it but pretending it's clear-cut is ignorant.

> - the de-facto document format are crappy hancom formats

In 2026 nobody uses these except for when dealing with government institutions. Saying they're de facto for Korea as a whole is wild generalization.

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Post by rurban »

rwmj wrote: post #13
iamnothere wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s insane to mandate the specific vendor used. This reads like a backroom deal was reached. Or gross incompetence.

South Korea has history, for years their banking applications required ActiveX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_compatibility_issues_in_So...

And mandatory TLS backdoors, ie insecure transport level

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Post by deaux »

eqvinox wrote: post #6
zuzululu wrote: post #5

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Starmer is about as left headed as a straight line railway across Australia. Corbyn was left (maybe). cf. https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2024 Even if you consider that page biased in whatever way - it's still useful for comparisons on the same scale. E.g. https://www.politicalcompass.org/norway2025

Guy is all over this post commenting nonsense because he's in love with the party that instated martial law recently and tried to do a coup. You're wasting your time on him.

You're completely right that the Korean blues are anything but left. Not even just compared to Corbyn, even compared to European labor parties (the champagne "social democrats" in each country). Biden was more left-wing than the Korean blues. That tells you everything.

In many ways the Korean blues are more nationalist than the reds, which can't be said about basically any modern relevant left-wing party elsewhere. Another good indicator they're absolutely not left-wing.

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