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Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by t-3 »

jdw64 wrote: post #54
prodigycorp wrote: post #27

Korea is backwards in technology in every possible way. - For the longest time, you needed a windows computer to access any sort of government or banking service, and it's still the case for most services - Because of the reliance on crappy windows laptops, you see everyone who uses a laptop carries an external mouse around to places like coffee shops (bc their trackpads suck) - the de-facto document format are crapp…

You're right. This stems from the characteristics of a small country. In fact, in Korea, Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people use, and its image is not good. But the overall situation you described is basically a combination of a chaebol-centered, family-run system of national governance, layered on top of large corporate oligarchy. Within that structure, the problem becomes one of survival…

> In fact, in Korea, Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people use, and its image is not good.

It's basically the same in many areas of the US. Social media use is very regional due to network effects.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by jibal »

Pay08 wrote: post #38
prodigycorp wrote: post #27

Korea is backwards in technology in every possible way. - For the longest time, you needed a windows computer to access any sort of government or banking service, and it's still the case for most services - Because of the reliance on crappy windows laptops, you see everyone who uses a laptop carries an external mouse around to places like coffee shops (bc their trackpads suck) - the de-facto document format are crapp…

> the de-facto document format are crappy hancom formats What's hancom?

A web search will give you a faster and better answer than you will get by asking here.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by js8 »

ronsor wrote: post #22
iamnothere wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traditional labels are becoming useless anyway, liberal can mean anything from libertarian free market enjoyer to radical progressive depending on who you are talking to. And I am talking about self-identified labels! You also have many right wingers (internationally) moving towards things like industrial policy, subsidies, and a populist labor focus (coupled with anti-immigration rhetoric of course). In some cases,…

A better axis is libertarian-authoritarian, because the "left" and the "right" aren't inherently either.

My main point was there is not a single axis. Even left and right are not strictly opposites, you can have a society that decides based on some mix of authority and democracy (individual preference). They are only opposites at the extreme, if you insist that every political problem has to be addressed in the particular way.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by zuzululu »

iamnothere wrote: post #11
donkeylazy456 wrote: post #3

Forcing CUDA and guiding for Ubuntu 18.04 (FYI, EOS was 2023). Do they really think single Quadro GPU server can handle heavy traffics in real-time?

It’s insane to mandate the specific vendor used. This reads like a backroom deal was reached. Or gross incompetence.

They are fully aware that website operators of popular discussion forums cannot afford it. This is effectively a mass censorship/takedown of Korea's remaining corners of free speech.

Imagine if a subreddit had to shut down because they have to now purchase expensive hardware just to vet each image shared.

These forums are popular with the young who share meme images of the current president of Korea and this new ordinance would immediately put an end to that.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by jdw64 »

t-3 wrote: post #71
jdw64 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. This stems from the characteristics of a small country. In fact, in Korea, Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people use, and its image is not good. But the overall situation you described is basically a combination of a chaebol-centered, family-run system of national governance, layered on top of large corporate oligarchy. Within that structure, the problem becomes one of survival…

> In fact, in Korea, Twitter (X) is looked down upon as something only crazy people use, and its image is not good. It's basically the same in many areas of the US. Social media use is very regional due to network effects.

Oh, really? That's interesting. I suppose that makes sense, since in the U.S., a single state is often larger than all of South Korea. Thanks for the good conversation. Sometimes the world is surprising in ways like this

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by zuzululu »

DeathArrow wrote: post #63
jdw64 wrote: post #49

The problem is that using an AI censorship tool requires purchasing a solution from a specific vendor. And the deadline is effectively less than a month. There’s nothing particularly unusual about this—South Korea especially has many IT zombie companies that sustain themselves through government contracts. In practice, there’s a local CMS structure in place, and Korean programmers, who are generally weak in English,…

>The problem is that using an AI censorship tool requires purchasing a solution from a specific vendor. This smells of corruption.

It's essentially a takedown of Korean imageboards and forums where political memes, especially of the current president, is very popular.

They are fully aware that these operators will not be able to afford the hardware and sustain their public squares by requiring a ridiculous ordinance targeting them.

I see GP is downplaying this very fact that its the "norm" in Korea and I can tell you that it's not. Korea has enjoyed free expression through the internet, now posting meme of the Korean president is going to be impossible/illegal for the site operator. This is definitely not normal and the AI narrative is just a convenient excuse.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by zuzululu »

SidewaysView wrote: post #66
shlewis wrote: post #16

No traditional media talk about this as much as it should be. No one seems to care but the always-angry, chronically online. I had no high hopes for free internet in this country but it's getting worse than I've ever imagined.

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Korea has a very large femcel crowd and this will impact their misandric expressions as well.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by eqvinox »

sophrosyne42 wrote: post #31
js8 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Starmer is not left-leaning, he's a liberal (and supports austerity). People should learn the difference between the left, the right and liberalism.

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At this point, no, he's just nothing. A wet washcloth, we'd say in German. He's abandoned a whole bunch of promises and watered down the remaining ones, without really setting a direction. And he's probably out soon anyhow.

Re: South Korean forums will need to scan every images with AI censorship tools

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Post by shit_game »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #25
october8140 wrote: post #23

The future is self hosted private invite only communities of vetted real life humans, likely done in person.

And when you need longer reach than that? A “I vouch for this person” system?

lobste.rs has a pretty decent system with a global invite tree, where users can provide access for other people. it comes with the benefit of creating an association graph of accounts that allows for swift moderation, and lets the userbase grow within a community of people likely to appreciate the culture.
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