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Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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post #15

This is a nonevent, unless perhaps some genuine "general purpose" tools come out of this. MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.

DeathArrow also touches on this, but to complete:

Windows stopped being the Golden Goose a long time ago, probably from the point Satya Nadella became CEO.

A visual aid from a quick search: https://visuwire.com/microsoft/

For instance Bing and LinkedIn combined bring in more than Windows at this point. And XBox is basically on par.

Their money makers don't rely on Windows either, so the OS isn't even a useable moat, which is why they can afford to enshittify the consumer version to death.

[Edit: fixed the CEO name]

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Microsoft would intentionally compete with Windows, but it does seem as though they are preparing for a world where Windows is no longer their golden goose, or at least hedging their bets. Given that Windows has already decisively lost the battle for servers, this seems prudent.

It’s already no longer their golden goose. It’s about 6% of total revenue (see http://bullfincher.io/companies/microsoft-corporation/revenu... ). Microsoft could give Windows away for free and be fine. Of course it’s still a lot of money, so they’re not going to leave a multibillion dollar business on the table. But strategically, preserving its revenue is not their priority.

How many percent of their revenue funel are dependent directly or indirectly on windows beeing the peoples workstation funneling them towards their subpar products?

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#34
post #8

call me old fashioned isn't a general purpose OS one that runs on any hardware and set up? and is certified with hardware vendors for full backing and support? all this says is: "MS now provides a unified Linux from WSL to the MS cloud. just like what you got w/ SUSE RH canonical up to now. but without any support outside the MS stack.", right? or am I missing something?

I'd say old fashioned Linux would come without any certification or support.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#35
post #15

This is a nonevent, unless perhaps some genuine "general purpose" tools come out of this. MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.

DeathArrow also touches on this, but to complete: Windows stopped being the Golden Goose a long time ago, probably from the point Satya Nadella became CEO. A visual aid from a quick search: https://visuwire.com/microsoft/ For instance Bing and LinkedIn combined bring in more than Windows at this point. And XBox is basically on par. Their money makers don't rely on Windows either, so the OS isn't even a useable moat,…

Sundar Pichai does not work in Microsoft, though. A bit weird to anchor the MS timeline on his position. When he became the CEO, actually? I don’t remember the year even approximately

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#36
post #8

call me old fashioned isn't a general purpose OS one that runs on any hardware and set up? and is certified with hardware vendors for full backing and support? all this says is: "MS now provides a unified Linux from WSL to the MS cloud. just like what you got w/ SUSE RH canonical up to now. but without any support outside the MS stack.", right? or am I missing something?

AFAIK it isn’t a declared term my left shoe is my first general purpose operating system, if i toss an esp32 in there i can probably call it linux too.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#37

No it's not. It's for tuned for Azure. Nobody is running this outside of their compute environment.

Yeah, a general purpose distro would come with a desktop environment and you'd be able to run it on your PC as your main OS. Calling this general purpose is so misleading.

Of course describing reality in titles would have the inconvenience of causing fewer clicks to these articles.

The title on HN could be updated though.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#39
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeathArrow also touches on this, but to complete: Windows stopped being the Golden Goose a long time ago, probably from the point Satya Nadella became CEO. A visual aid from a quick search: https://visuwire.com/microsoft/ For instance Bing and LinkedIn combined bring in more than Windows at this point. And XBox is basically on par. Their money makers don't rely on Windows either, so the OS isn't even a useable moat,…

Sundar Pichai does not work in Microsoft, though. A bit weird to anchor the MS timeline on his position. When he became the CEO, actually? I don’t remember the year even approximately

Sorry it was a brain fart. I meant Satya Nadella.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

#40
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DeathArrow also touches on this, but to complete: Windows stopped being the Golden Goose a long time ago, probably from the point Satya Nadella became CEO. A visual aid from a quick search: https://visuwire.com/microsoft/ For instance Bing and LinkedIn combined bring in more than Windows at this point. And XBox is basically on par. Their money makers don't rely on Windows either, so the OS isn't even a useable moat,…

Sundar Pichai does not work in Microsoft, though. A bit weird to anchor the MS timeline on his position. When he became the CEO, actually? I don’t remember the year even approximately

Pretty sure he meant Satya Nadella but picked the wrong name...
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