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Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by saghm »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #3
nullpoint420 wrote: post #2

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish anyone? Although, as a Fedora user I'm happy it's RPM based.

Little harder to pull that off when the key components are all GPL licensed, but also all of Microsoft's bits and pieces for their distro seem to be MIT Licensed. Honestly, it certainly feels more like Google lives by Embrace, Extend, Extinguish (email, browsers, video streaming, etc).

You cited three of the most prominent counterexamples to the common meme about Google killing their products as evidence of them extinguishing things. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but I don't think you've demonstrated what you think you have.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by fragmede »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #7
nullpoint420 wrote: post #2

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish anyone? Although, as a Fedora user I'm happy it's RPM based.

As a Fedora hater, I'm also happy it's RPM based; IMO, .debs are just flat out worse than .rpm as a format and the tooling on top matches that. I do wonder, though: > Azure Linux 4.0 is derived from Fedora, right now a Fedora 43 snapshot, rather than assembled package by package the way 1.0 through 3.0 were. Then what's the point? They could just ship Fedora. There are minor differences, but all things that sound eas…

Time difference. A VP at Microsoft has someone they can yell at to make an ship a change. Having to ask upstream politely and then wait for their release schedule was proving to be an issue.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by mhitza »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #7
nullpoint420 wrote: post #2

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish anyone? Although, as a Fedora user I'm happy it's RPM based.

As a Fedora hater, I'm also happy it's RPM based; IMO, .debs are just flat out worse than .rpm as a format and the tooling on top matches that. I do wonder, though: > Azure Linux 4.0 is derived from Fedora, right now a Fedora 43 snapshot, rather than assembled package by package the way 1.0 through 3.0 were. Then what's the point? They could just ship Fedora. There are minor differences, but all things that sound eas…

Same as with any distribution it gives you flexibility over update cadence, validate your software doesn't break with updates, and push out your own hotfixes without being tied to the release process upstream.

Default configurations as well, since it states FIPS compliance it has to change defaults https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveFipsModeSetup#W...>

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by santoshalper »

drnick1 wrote: post #15

This is a nonevent, unless perhaps some genuine "general purpose" tools come out of this. MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.

I don't think Microsoft would intentionally compete with Windows, but it does seem as though they are preparing for a world where Windows is no longer their golden goose, or at least hedging their bets. Given that Windows has already decisively lost the battle for servers, this seems prudent.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by Krutonium »

drnick1 wrote: post #15

This is a nonevent, unless perhaps some genuine "general purpose" tools come out of this. MS will never contribute to things such as Wine and Proton and kill its golden goose.

You say that, but Microsoft has contributed to Wine!

Both in terms of code and help, on occasion. Microsoft gave Mono to Wine, and while Wine has a ban on accepting code from people who have seen the source of Microsoft Windows, they have, if I recall correctly, accepted documentation on Windows Internals from Microsoft themselves.

Re: Azure Linux 4.0 is Microsoft's first general-purpose Linux

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Post by PacificSpecific »

froh wrote: post #8

call me old fashioned isn't a general purpose OS one that runs on any hardware and set up? and is certified with hardware vendors for full backing and support? all this says is: "MS now provides a unified Linux from WSL to the MS cloud. just like what you got w/ SUSE RH canonical up to now. but without any support outside the MS stack.", right? or am I missing something?

Don't worry you aren't. Luckily no one will use this distro day to day
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