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Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

#261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Must be a pretty nice sum for them to agree to it Not necessarily: if the investors don't agree to a reasonable amount, the wanna-be acquirer will simply hire the entire team with generous sign-on bonuses, and the investors will be left with a shell of a company. In this case, the core product is MIT-licensed, the team can quit on a Friday and pick up exactly where they left off under a new org on Monday.

In M&A's you usually sign non-competes.

The husk of a company would still be bound by whatever contacts were signed by its officers. However, non-compete enforcement against individuals have been declawed in California, where VoidZero is headquartered, and (I assume) where its investors are, and whose courts they've likely agreed to adjudicate disagreements.

This is an extreme measure not usually taken, but it's a nuclear option that sets a ceiling on how much investors may play hardball.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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These acquisition announcements always leave me uneasy. There’s a lot of hand waving, “nothing will change and our roadmap will stay the same!” but we can all do basic math and understand that’s not how business works. As an aside, I have to use Cloudlare at work and it’s a pretty awful experience for the medium sized org I’m at. “Hostile UX” is a common complaint. Maybe they should invest money in competing with Ver…

sorry to hear that's been your experience. i actually joined through an acquisition about a year ago and one of the main things we've been focused on is the dashboard and overall dx. sadly "hostile ux" is a phrase i've heard more than once and we're working hard to improve. if you're open to it, would love to hear more about the issues you've be running into

Never, ever put a form into a popup. Ever.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

#266

First Astro, now this? Cloudflare is getting all the good JS talent. The monetization story never really made sense to me. It seems really hard to carve out a space in the managed hosting world. Are the Vercel and Laravel teams the only ones to make Private Equity work?

they need to add tanstack to the roster

Ewww

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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post #137

These acquisition announcements always leave me uneasy. There’s a lot of hand waving, “nothing will change and our roadmap will stay the same!” but we can all do basic math and understand that’s not how business works. As an aside, I have to use Cloudlare at work and it’s a pretty awful experience for the medium sized org I’m at. “Hostile UX” is a common complaint. Maybe they should invest money in competing with Ver…

sorry to hear that's been your experience. i actually joined through an acquisition about a year ago and one of the main things we've been focused on is the dashboard and overall dx. sadly "hostile ux" is a phrase i've heard more than once and we're working hard to improve. if you're open to it, would love to hear more about the issues you've be running into

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become Akamai.

The reason everyone came running when Cloudflare first started was obviously the "burn VC money to gain marketshare" but it was also the sheer simplicity. They had one product and a handful of features.

Until someone on the business side takes a step back and says "when I mouse over 'Products' on the homepage, why the fuck is there a 'See All Products' link" it will be impossible to have a usable customer experience. Start killing things and making them features.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

#268

Just for the record, NPM -> Microsoft Vite -> Cloudflare Bun -> Anthropic Turbopack -> Vercel Remix -> Shopify (I barely remember this one) Biome (formerly Rome) -> Indie but largely supported by Depot SWC -> Indie esBuild -> Indie I use RsBuild/RsPack which is ByteDance supported.

Is the guy from CoreJS still looking for a job?

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. There are likely key person clauses in the prior round docs.

It has happened in the recent past (2-4 years ago?); I can't remember both the acquirer and the hollowed-out startup, and searches are returning chaff, but it got to the HN frontpage. IANAL, but at-will employment cuts both ways- thr best an employer can do on behalf of investors, are golden handcuffs - and people can be bought out of those.

That’s not quite actually true and it is a bit more nuanced than that. For example, while non-competes and non-solicits are unenforceable in CA for employment agreements, they absolutely are enforceable for mergers and acquisitions.

The laws governing employment are a subset of the laws governing M&A.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

#270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In M&A's you usually sign non-competes.

The husk of a company would still be bound by whatever contacts were signed by its officers. However, non-compete enforcement against individuals have been declawed in California, where VoidZero is headquartered, and (I assume) where its investors are, and whose courts they've likely agreed to adjudicate disagreements. This is an extreme measure not usually taken, but it's a nuclear option that sets a ceiling on how…

> However, non-compete enforcement against individuals have been declawed in California, where VoidZero is headquartered

Not in M&A.

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