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VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by sph »

applfanboysbgon wrote: post #19
holistio wrote: post #6

Do we have any chance left of using software for our work without Big Tech behind it?

Yes. Pay for software from independent developers and small businesses. The entire reason big tech is where it is is because nobody wants to pay for software, and big tech is the way to make money off of "free" software. Software developers need money to eat, so this is the inevitable result of demanding everything for free. Actions meet consequences.

“Be the change you want to see in the world” and other stories powerless people tell themselves to sleep.

I pay for independent software, point is, only big money can afford to hire employees to work on free software, because they don’t make money from selling software but from being a monopoly. Free software will always win, which is not a bad thing of itself, but it also means that Big Tech control over the software world is inevitable.

The entire free software ethos indirectly opened the door to the Big Tech monopoly. There is no FAANG without open source, there is no open source without FAANG.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by demetris »

I love Vite, when I don’t forget it exists in my projects. It took things that made you feel mentally deficient and made them almost zero-config.

This news does not make me happy.

Same with the news about Astro earlier this year.

I know it must be good for the people how have made the projects (why else would they chose to do it?) but there is something in those acquisitions that makes me uneasy.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by jazzypants »

First Astro, now this? Cloudflare is getting all the good JS talent.

The monetization story never really made sense to me. It seems really hard to carve out a space in the managed hosting world. Are the Vercel and Laravel teams the only ones to make Private Equity work?

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by alefnula »

hntiz wrote: post #22

I think, just from a purely build-step point of view, it's been evident that tools like Vite, Bun, etc. have achieved all they meaningfully can. If I was the creator of these tools, I've move on too. Good luck and thanks for everything.

I think this frames the tools too narrowly.

If Vite, Bun and uv were just "make builds faster" projects, then maybe the returns are diminishing. But the acquisitions by Cloudflare, Anthropic and OpenAI suggest this layer is becoming more strategic, not less.

These tools sit in the software supply chain: dependency resolution, project structure, tests, builds, runtimes, deployment paths and increasingly AI-agent execution loops. They define the default path for building software, and they are where AI-generated code gets tested against real dependencies, builds, tests and deployment constraints.

So I don’t think they’ve achieved all they meaningfully can. The value is shifting from raw build speed to control over the workflow layer where software is assembled.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by esskay »

Ajunne wrote: post #46

I love how they always make it sound like this is by choice. "VoidZero is joining Cloudflare" As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, but in the end it was just a huge financial transaction. But i guess "Cloudflare buys VoidZero" just sounds less friendly. Even though that is exactly what happened.

> Evan and the rest of the VoidZero team continue to lead Vite, Vitest, Rolldown, Oxc, and Vite+.

Explain how thats not a clear indication of this being a choice and something they agreed to.

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by TheAlexLichter »

Ajunne wrote: post #46

I love how they always make it sound like this is by choice. "VoidZero is joining Cloudflare" As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, but in the end it was just a huge financial transaction. But i guess "Cloudflare buys VoidZero" just sounds less friendly. Even though that is exactly what happened.

1) The blog post mentions "acquisition" multiple times. 2) VoidZero joins Cloudflare is still correct. Nobody forced anyone to accept a deal and do so

Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare

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Post by Sammi »

postalcoder wrote: post #36

Had no idea Vite and OXC were made by the same company. Makes so much sense. I don’t get the complaining about OS developers behind these incredible pieces of software like uv, bun, etc is a bad thing. If anything, it’ll continue to incentivize great developers to fill in the blanks and continue to push things forward. It’s a win for everyone.

OXC predates VoidZero and is made by Boshen. Evan had to try for a while until he was able to convince Boshen to join them. OXC is the best of the JS toolchains implemented in Rust, so it was definitely a scoop.
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