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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by AndroTux »

BrunoBernardino wrote: post #179
AndroTux wrote: post #127

Okay, so in order to do a test search, I have to: 1) type in a query and hit enter because there's no search button. 2) click signup, even though I want to evaluate it before creating an account. 3) apparently now I'm signed up without having to enter any details - what's the point? Just create a new session as soon as I initiate the search. 4) so now I need to return to the homepage to trigger another search. 5) sea…

The goal was to always show you the account number before you went for anything, but your post made me realize you don't need that if you're just trying it out, so now you should only: 1) type in a query and hit enter 2) solve the captcha 3) search results!

Much better. Now just add a freaking search button. That's literally your primary function, and you're lacking the button to do the one thing.

I understand as a power user you don't press on buttons, but from a UX perspective, if you don't trigger the search immediately upon typing, you need a button to start the search.

Your current UI suggests: Type in a query, and then click on "images" because that's the next thing that you can click.

(Also apparently my IP is now banned and now every page just reads "Forbidden," so I couldn't even buy your product if I tried. You really should invest a lot in UX if you want this to be a product that's used by anyone other than hardcore privacy nerds.)

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by gunalx »

SyneRyder wrote: post #86
psychoslave wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Yandex? Is it quality of service being too low? Does the company have tracking records of shady practices, worst than what GAFAM are doing that make customer flee away?

In my experience, Yandex was feeding in a lot of low quality results into Kagi - lots of pirated software, shady websites, proxy duplicate copycat sites, content that I'll euphemistically call "free speech". Kagi has a domain blacklist feature, but I was starting to fill up my blocklist - I think it's capped at 1000 domains, and many of these sites spin up new domains specifically to get around blocklists. There's al…

Main feature of urky seems to really be privacy. on my own searxNG i would be all the traffic. If I ho through urky hopefully I can hide with traffic from other users.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

#194

Post by neoromantique »

wolvoleo wrote: post #175
TiredOfLife wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kagi pays Yandex. So you are supporting directly

Kagi -> Yandex -> Putin (through taxes), it's not really direct IMO

Yandex these days is pretty much directly Kremlin, so it's not "through taxes".

That being said Kagi -> Yandex hop does indeed make it indirect.

(I too have stopped using Kagi after I found out that they pay Yandex and employ people who support Russian war).

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by Havoc »

Havoc wrote: post #192

uhm, I'm suddenly completed locked out? Can't even get to the homepage in private browse anymore so must be IP level. Just says "Forbidden". Must have tripped some sort of safeguard while trying to figure out how to use the API via curl

OK this is a bit ridiculous. The FAQ does not specify how to use the API beyond listing a json parameter. If you send a curl command with that parameter the first search just returns "Logged In", and run another search and then you're temporarily IP banned site wide.

Having hair trigger sensitive security around API while not telling the user what the request should look like to not trigger that is just silly.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by Havoc »

Havoc wrote: post #196
Havoc wrote: post #192

uhm, I'm suddenly completed locked out? Can't even get to the homepage in private browse anymore so must be IP level. Just says "Forbidden". Must have tripped some sort of safeguard while trying to figure out how to use the API via curl

OK this is a bit ridiculous. The FAQ does not specify how to use the API beyond listing a json parameter. If you send a curl command with that parameter the first search just returns "Logged In", and run another search and then you're temporarily IP banned site wide. Having hair trigger sensitive security around API while not telling the user what the request should look like to not trigger that is just silly.

OK bit more trial and error later I worked out a curl command that doesn't trip this.

https://pastebin.com/BNRBfYFf

Still not entirely sure what about the original request trigger it. Think it was something around the Sec-Fetch-* headers that copying a request from browser via copy cURL included

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by 1kurac »

mietek wrote: post #197

My number one request: let me block specific sites from my search results.

FYI, on reasonable search engines like altpower.app, you can exclude sites with `-site:domain.tld` keyword.

See also: https://altpower.app/#Advanced%20Search%20Operator%20Syntax https://www.exploit-db.com/google-hacking-database

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

#200

Post by neonstatic »

evilmonkey19 wrote: post #13

I really like the idea and that it's eu-made a love it. A fee things I see with kagi which are useful and improvements: - Hire a UI/UX person NOW! My parents and gf like using google and kagi because are easy to use. - add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap. My gf is thinking about moving away from kagi because of this. - the quick ai response is extremely useful. - I…

I think it all depends on what kind of customer they want to attract.

> Hire a UI/UX person NOW

I agree, the current site is too busy.

> add the widgets like the football or the show the local store with the phone number asap

Sounds like clutter to me

> the quick ai response is extremely useful.

Depends, I use Kagi because it doesn't have that (or it does, but allowed me to hide it, I don't remember anymore)

> make it funny, easy to use and welcoming

If I see another web site that "uh-oh!"s me the moment something doesn't work, I'm going to kill myself ;) The drive to be "funny" can very quickly turn into cringe-fest.

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