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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by KomoD »

wolvoleo wrote: post #62
BrunoBernardino wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be clear in the FAQ. All Europe-based. Our current search providers: - Mojeek - EUSP - Marginalia - Linkup - Serper (the only non-EU, being UK and proxying Google) - Uruky Site Search (our own index) - Pixabay (images) I'd be curious to hear about your Mullvad experience (feel free to email me).

Well Mullvad stopped providing port forwarding, which is necessary for good torrent support (especially if you use public torrents and you need ones that aren't seeded a lot). They also stopped supporting openvpn which I need. Wireguard only now. It's not enshittification in terms of ads etc but it is reduction of possibilities because they already make enough money on the people using the main features. But anyway I…

What's the reason you need OpenVPN?

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by chadgpt3 »

axegon_ wrote: post #80
chadgpt3 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans too, or just Russians?

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I see. To summarize, you believe all Russians are bad because a Russian person killed your friend and all Americans are good because no American people killed any of your friends?

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by axegon_ »

chadgpt3 wrote: post #82
axegon_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I see. To summarize, you believe all Russians are bad because a Russian person killed your friend and all Americans are good because no American people killed any of your friends?

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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BrunoBernardino »

lowdude wrote: post #76
BrunoBernardino wrote: post #28

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Thank you for your suggestions and support! - Ouch. We get a lot of love for our UI/UX, which I guess just goes to show taste is personal. If you have any particular points of friction, we'd love to hear about them. - Only Serper allows for this, so we're very hesitant. If other providers allowed it, we could definitely consider it. - We won't have Generative AI, sorry. - Could you clarify? - Check out the interview…

Seeing the point on UI/UX got me curious as well and from a brief look I don't quite see where it is coming from, but maybe they will expand on it. Regarding their point about relatives loving Google/Kagi for usability: If you don't already do that, I believe it can be pretty eye-opening to just place some "tech-illiterate" person in front of your product and check if/where they struggle. There were lots of situation…

Thanks! Your point is quite valid and we do that. Unfortunately, the biggest problem with most "tech-illiterate" people we have is that they don't understand why they should care about privacy or what's "wrong" with AI tools in the first place.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by [deleted] »

_diyar wrote: post #69
specproc wrote: post #46

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What's wrong with Yandex? I think every possible criticism of Yandex I can think of could just as easily be leveled at Google or Bing.

but surely you realize that people going to kagi also don’t like google or bing.

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Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by SyneRyder »

psychoslave wrote: post #45
axegon_ wrote: post #40

I'd be more than willing to subscribe and support the project BUT, I need to address the elephant in the room: The reason why I'm against Kagi is the fact that they use Yandex(be it only for images according to their own words) and I'm sure as hell refusing to give a single cent to them. So I guess my question is: sources?

What's wrong with Yandex? Is it quality of service being too low? Does the company have tracking records of shady practices, worst than what GAFAM are doing that make customer flee away?

In my experience, Yandex was feeding in a lot of low quality results into Kagi - lots of pirated software, shady websites, proxy duplicate copycat sites, content that I'll euphemistically call "free speech". Kagi has a domain blacklist feature, but I was starting to fill up my blocklist - I think it's capped at 1000 domains, and many of these sites spin up new domains specifically to get around blocklists.

There's also the geopolitical issues, which I'll skip over because similar concerns can be leveled at other indexes too. I posted about that on the Kagi feedback forums back in 2024:

https://kagifeedback.org/d/4727-option-to-choose-or-exclude-...

I since built my own metasearch engine for my own use, where I choose the external indexes used, and I'm much happier. I started building a personal index of the web as well. I haven't used Kagi or Google for over a year now.

I hope I'm not distracting from Bruno's Uruky project here. Not everyone is technical enough to spin up some PHP code and make their own metasearch, or spin up a VPS and install a SearxNG instance. There's value in providing a good user experience for less technical users, in building resilience by using multiple indexes & building your own, and reducing dependencies on external index APIs that may cut off your access (coffgooglebingcoff). I'm glad services like Uruky exist.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by KomoD »

> EU servers, EU storage, EU payment processing, EU search providers (Marginalia, Mojeek, EUSP, etc.).

> All servers and data are physically in the EU. All search providers are based in the EU. Payment processing is done in the EU.

Mojeek and Serper aren't EU so that's just false. And I'm not sure all the providers only use EU servers so I don't like the claim for that reason too.

> Try in: Google // DuckDuckGo // Ecosia

I would remove this, I thought it was for changing what provider I was using, but no, it just sent me to Google.

Then at the bottom of the page is where I found this, which I would prefer to have at the top.

> Try with: Mojeek // EUSP // Linkup // Serper

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by xquce »

axegon_ wrote: post #80
chadgpt3 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans too, or just Russians?

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You can hate ALL Russians all you want but it's not whataboutism to call you out on the hypocritical and hateful position you take. Saying you have issue with not only a country but all it's people and their offerings because of the countries effects on friends and families just means in the case of the US, that you have no friends that are: Black Americans, Native Americans, Latino Americans, pretty much all of South Americans, large portions Africans, the Balkans, Vietnamise, Most of the Arab countries etc?

Surely the rational position to take is to hate the countries policies not all their citizens. I also dislike Russia policies but boycutting or hating the creator of 7 Zip because he is Russian seems weird.

Re: Show HN: Uruky (EU-based Kagi alternative) now has Image Search and URL Rewrites

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Post by BYazfVCcq »

chadgpt3 wrote: post #82
axegon_ wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I see. To summarize, you believe all Russians are bad because a Russian person killed your friend and all Americans are good because no American people killed any of your friends?

Is it really that hard to believe people don't want to support a state that has brutally occupied half of Europe for 50 years and is right now murdering Ukrainians every day?

Russia is waging a hybrid war against Europe (and the West in general), there's no way I'd give one of their biggest tech companies even a cent.

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