didn't Cloudflare just layoff a few hundred people? odd to see a acqui-hire take place right after that but ok. This is great for Evan You
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#242First Astro, now this? Cloudflare is getting all the good JS talent. The monetization story never really made sense to me. It seems really hard to carve out a space in the managed hosting world. Are the Vercel and Laravel teams the only ones to make Private Equity work?
they need to add tanstack to the roster
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#243I love how they always make it sound like this is by choice. "VoidZero is joining Cloudflare" As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, but in the end it was just a huge financial transaction. But i guess "Cloudflare buys VoidZero" just sounds less friendly. Even though that is exactly what happened.
It is by choice, though? VoidZero was well-capitalized and could easily have continued to raise money for the foreseeable.
Could they? Under what business model? Maybe the numbers for the paid products just weren't there and they see this exit as a positive for the team?
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#244The dream has always been a first-class framework for Cloudflare Workers.
- In the earliest days (literally go read their blog posts and GitHub repos), they only ever really did dinky little demo's.
- After and for the longest time, they tried to claim they went "Full Stack" with SSR-able abilities, but they were so terrible back then and not even well integrated into their Worker platform tools.
- This was oddly gray mixed (sometimes?) with Pages messaging which definitely was not full-stack in the sense developers wanted.
- Then getting any of this to work in a dev environment was super difficult as "wrangler dev" was very limited (wrangler is so good now FYI).
- Vercel just kind of ate Cloudflare's lunch here. No shame in it. They just couldn't get it right for developers period.
- Then very quietly "Adapters" came around and basically changed the game. Your code base finally felt portable to Workers with essentially full CF platform support.
- Now we live in AI-age and they bought Astro (?), tried to launch WP clone (?), and vibe-coded Next (?)
Big and long time coming for all of this. It is a super breath of fresh air to see even more improvements will likely come to Workers. Icing on cake is Evan is a legend who has a proven track record of delivering tools people love.
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#245All of them are getting acquired nothing bad in that but I feel like the path to revenue with open source just isn't viable anymore. You have to build your own platform like vercel, or build great dev tools like mintlify
Vercel is killing free public repos in a month. Lure then lock in and pull the rug out.
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
For your first question: - The workers platform is quite pleasant to work with compared to competitors. - Globally deploying edge workers which have access to their many services (D1, R2, DO, etc) - Having the ability to assemble globally distributed workers using bindings is dead simple - Their CI pipeline, while limited, is easy to setup and run and keeps improving - Their pricing is extremely competitive For your…
One thing is hosting, which obviously comes with centralizing risks but a different one is just deciding to add a layer of "protection" in front of every website so that as much traffic as possible goes through one single company.
I love how you put protection in quotes like Cloudflare is some snake oil salesman and not a very good product.
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#247Re: VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare
#248"Vue.js: JavaScript MVVM made simple (vuejs.org)" February 3, 2014: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7169288 Evidently Evan You was an Art History + Studio Art and major and at Parsons School he had to pick up javascript to quickly show his work. During a stint at Creativelab5 at Google, he was so inspired to improve on AngularJS experience that he came up with Vue and the rest is history. I have no idea what thi…
Similar story with Rich Harris of Svelte. He had no tech background but learned js to power data visualizations for his work in journalism.
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#249I for one love this. Cloudflare is doing really excellent job last few years and of all the companies, this acquisition will not hurt developers like those other might or already do.
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#250I remember thinking that they were making great software, but finding revenue to make the investment payoff could be quite challenging. Looks like that's been solved.