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Post by ceejayoz »

saalweachter wrote: post #228
ceejayoz wrote: post #48

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> on relatively new domains I'm seeing a lot of domains that are clearly registered to spam without a reputational hit to the root domain; for example, wh***teams.work spamming me on behalf of wh***teams.com. I wish Google'd link them together.

Fun fact! Doing SEO/marketing tricks on behalf of your competitors which gets them penalized by Google is a form of blackhat SEO with a rich tradition & history.

Sure, but the fix can't be "welp, can't do anything". Whoever sent them, these are clearly identifiable as spam, but they land in my inbox.

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Post by tardedmeme »

nosioptar wrote: post #394
slipknotfan wrote: post #387

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you can solve the google problem: cd C: && find -type f | grep google | sudo xargs rm and also the win11 problem: format C:

Why run two commands when the following will remove both google and windows in one command? cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge gentoo-dev-sources && cd /usr/src/linux && make menuconfig && make install modules_insta…

I can see that chrooting into an empty folder can make it look like everything is deleted but it's actually the mkfs command that deleted everything.

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Post by tardedmeme »

Zambyte wrote: post #60

> I think we’re all used to user-hostile software these days [...] Malware. Call it what it is. Software that intentionally subverts and acts against the user’s intent is malware. It’s important to call malware what it is because people don’t even realize they shouldn’t use it when it’s not called malware. Instead, they get "used to" using malware.

Do casual computer users use the word "malware"? I think people only know the term "virus" but when I say "windows is a computer virus" everyone thinks I'm insane.

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Post by tardedmeme »

slavoingilizov wrote: post #587

So many seem to have made a similar move. But the one thing holding me back: starting with a new email address. My email address is not just for email. It's so firmly embedded in my digital life, it's hard to think how to remove it. It's my identity. I use "login with Google" in most places where it's available. It's my backup recovery for my MFA authenticator. It's my github alias. So what is the strategy everyone f…

Just make a new one and start using it for new things. Move things over piecemeal. You don't have to close your old account.

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Post by Kinrany »

thisislife2 wrote: post #768
newaccountman2 wrote: post #759

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I never understood why anyone would want to download an application to do something as simple as checking email.

To have a copy of your emails on your device, for backup, and offline use.

A web UI can do that

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Post by 10729287 »

pmontra wrote: post #462
vachina wrote: post #454

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Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

Probably the nothing to install experience. Every Android phone comes with Gmail and every device has a web browser. Do people have to install Gmail on iOS? I'm using Thunderbird with POP3 accounts, download on my laptop then remove from the server, daily backups. My phone has K9 (the old one with the UI I like) and I never remove messages from the phone. When I send mail from the phone I bcc myself so I can see the…

If your concern is just having access to your emails if someday shit hits the fan and you’re locked out, why no smtp ? Seems easier.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

newaccountman2 wrote: post #759
vachina wrote: post #454

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Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

I never understood why anyone would want to download an application to do something as simple as checking email.

Because native apps are faster, work when you aren't online, and are all around more pleasant to use.

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Post by Zambyte »

tardedmeme wrote: post #773
Zambyte wrote: post #60

> I think we’re all used to user-hostile software these days [...] Malware. Call it what it is. Software that intentionally subverts and acts against the user’s intent is malware. It’s important to call malware what it is because people don’t even realize they shouldn’t use it when it’s not called malware. Instead, they get "used to" using malware.

Do casual computer users use the word "malware"? I think people only know the term "virus" but when I say "windows is a computer virus" everyone thinks I'm insane.

"Computer virus" is the wrong term, because it (neither Windows nor Gmail) does not spread and replicate itself through technical means. Computer viruses are a subset of malware, and it is more correct to say the general term in this case.

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Post by computomatic »

nmjenkins wrote: post #618
computomatic wrote: post #474

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Ironically my experience with Fastmail was that every email ended up in spam. This included emails from myself, others from my own gmail, and even replies from people I'd emailed first. It was literally sending 100% of emails to spam. The spam filter setting was set to the most basic level, nothing aggressive, so I was forced to disable spam filtering completely. Luckily it was a new email so spam hasn't been an issu…

(Chief Product Officer at Fastmail here.) > every email ended up in spam. This included emails from myself, others from my own gmail, and even replies from people I'd emailed first. It should go without saying, but that's definitely not the common (or expected!) experience. Our support team would be very happy to look into it for you: https://www.fastmail.com/support/ Normally when people see this kind of behaviour,…

Brand new email. Behaviour stopped when I disabled spam filter.

Good point about working with support. I’ll keep this in mind if I get around to re-enabling spam filters and experience the same behaviour.

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Post by baggy_trough »

aprentic wrote: post #225
baggy_trough wrote: post #171

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Please do not call it malware, because it is not. It is just bad software UI.

Why not? It's a software feature designed to benefit Google at the expense of the user.

Because that is not what malware is.
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