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Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by hollerith »

lenerdenator wrote: post #195
hollerith wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to GPT, Poland (my pick because its GDP per cap is about the average for the former Warsaw Pact) received about $10,000 per person in foreign direct investment in recent years whereas during the same period, China received only about $1,900 per person.

> in recent years How about 25-35 years ago when the wave of globalization truly hit?

You could look it up yourself. The figures I gave are the total current value of equities (stocks) held by foreign investors (divided by population). Since the value was zero in Poland in 1989 and very very low in China in 1989, GPT thought this would be a good way to estimate cumulative investment from then to now, but GPT also said there are figures available for investment inflows per year going back to 1989 that it could add up if I asked, but it guessed that such a calculation would only show investment into Poland in an even more comparatively favorable light.

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a1f4622-aea4-83e8-838a-0c3ac69b26...

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by nightshift1 »

justacrow wrote: post #196
sph wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats to those among us building this dystopia. It's not Larry Ellison coding these systems.

Look, I have exactly two options: 1) Me and my entire family starves to death 2) I make 600k per year building surveillance systems for whoever wants them (as long as they're aligned with Peter Thiels and/or government interests)

or find another job

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by O1111OOO »

azan_ wrote: post #122
anamexis wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This does not read as AI to me at all

I'm 99% certain it's AI. Lots of short sentences. Very short paragraphs. It's not X, it's Y.

> I'm 99% certain it's AI. Lots of short sentences. Very short paragraphs. It's not X, it's Y.

Your reply meets said criteria.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by downrightmike »

pstuart wrote: post #5

Look how well it worked for cops! I'm not suggesting we get rid of their bodycams, but it's easily gamed. It's one thing to be rich and enjoy the luxuries afforded by that, but to buy dominance over the very lives of others is when the angry mob retaliation is entirely justifiable.

They turn them off all the time or the footage gets deleted

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by brendoelfrendo »

standardly wrote: post #150
EastLondonCoder wrote: post #71

I think the really dangerous part here is not just “surveillance bad”. It is that AI removes the labour cost that used to limit surveillance. CCTV was already a problem, but someone still had to watch it, search it, interpret it, escalate it. AI changes that. It makes surveillance searchable, scalable and administratively useful. The shift is from “you may be observed” to “your behaviour can be continuously machine-i…

That is copied straight from an LLM. Do folks make no attempt at humanizing their LLM outputs? Is that even worth doing? I personally wish you guys would - the moment I realize I'm reading an LLM-generated comment, my interest immediately wanes and I stop reading.

Alright, hit me: what are the tells that this is AI?

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by O1111OOO »

justacrow wrote: post #196
sph wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congrats to those among us building this dystopia. It's not Larry Ellison coding these systems.

Look, I have exactly two options: 1) Me and my entire family starves to death 2) I make 600k per year building surveillance systems for whoever wants them (as long as they're aligned with Peter Thiels and/or government interests)

> 2) I make 600k per year building surveillance systems for whoever wants them (as long as they're aligned with Peter Thiels and/or government interests)

"I was just doing my job. ... I was just following orders".

Got it.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by GuestFAUniverse »

Everytime someone like this opens his mouth I look up their year of birth. He's 82 already. That calms me. And I wholeheartedly hope that there won't really be life prolonging biotech. I like a merciful natural death. It's the ultimative emergency fix for gerontocracies.

Re: Larry Ellison: "Citizens will be on their best behavior because we’re recording"

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Post by sarabande »

polotics wrote: post #130

Be careful what you wish for Larry. If I may point to the examples of Fritz Thyssen, Hugo Junkers, Alfried Krupp... There are many examples of succesful clever mega-wealthy industrialists who really thought they were above the fray, had it all figured out, and could push all the levers to their advantage.

What happened then?
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