My comment won't add anything meaningful to the discussion, but this does seem to validate the new AI slop being generated on YouTube and other social media platforms, with influencers starting a new wave under the motto. If Marty embraces it, why not us? /s
Martin Scorsese Is Embracing A.I.
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#52An imo fascinating wrinkle that the article doesn't get into, Black Forest's main use case for their Flux models is "analytical" (modifying the user's pre-existing material, storyboards in this case) rather than "generative" (modifying stored material from the model's training corpus). In my experience with these tools so far, the analytical approach is more filmmaker-friendly, with image models fitting comfortably into well-established rendering and compositing roles. Meanwhile my current guess is that creative applications of the generative approach are going to end up looking a lot more like gamedev than filmmaking.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
But what if you could have the movie you want exactly with the story and characters as you envision them. You may not want that still, but I guarantee you there are people that will.
When there is a large portion of society that realises this is a way to say, "what if I had every social interaction in the setting I want, with the characters I want, with the response I want, where I say exactly the right thing" and choose to spend all of their leisure hours generating imaginary worlds to make them feel better there will still be people saying, "and so what if they do? If people will pay for it, ul…
They would end up extremely bored very soon.
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#54Martin Scorsese is backing Black Forest Labs, the company famous for FLUX models.
Backing as in vouching for, or backing as in investing in?
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#55I've noticed a tendency among people who have built careers known for visionary, forward-thinking work that they hesitate to make the natural move into more "conservative" positions/approaches as they age. This leads to missteps, because as one ages, one inevitably becomes further removed from the zeitgeist. On paper, embracing AI might seem like a great idea if you don't want to become an old fogey, but not all chan…
I am also curious whether a knee-jerk reaction to seeing the word A.I and assuming the worst will age well. It's not just you, this is media writ large now.
Martin Scorsese is using AI to build better pre-viz tools not create scenes and write scripts, but that detail is completely lost on the literati. The reactions roll in.
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#56I've noticed a tendency among people who have built careers known for visionary, forward-thinking work that they hesitate to make the natural move into more "conservative" positions/approaches as they age. This leads to missteps, because as one ages, one inevitably becomes further removed from the zeitgeist. On paper, embracing AI might seem like a great idea if you don't want to become an old fogey, but not all chan…
I am also curious whether a knee-jerk reaction to seeing the word A.I and assuming the worst will age well. It's not just you, this is media writ large now. Martin Scorsese is using AI to build better pre-viz tools not create scenes and write scripts, but that detail is completely lost on the literati. The reactions roll in.
It's going to be conveniently forgotten, like the people that were screaming at people for not wearing masks outside months (years!) after we understood covid.
As a conflict averse society, we excuse people that indulge in these kinds of behaviors once they reach a critical mass. It's kind of like a conversion disorder.
Covid is a good analogy here. We went seemingly overnight to righteous indignation to cold and flu commercials advertising their products so you can go to work sick.
It's cool right now to dislike ai, and there are plenty of charlatans that are ready to harness that for whatever new outrage.
We live in such an information dense world that people will form very strong beliefs about things overnight, castigate those that don't agree with them, and then shed them just as fast when no longer conveniently held.
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#57TFA says he's using it for storyboarding. This doesn't seem like a huge deal, but film is a visual medium! The closer your pre-viz and storyboarding looks to reality, the more you're going to tend to stick to it when you're actually filming. You want your rough drafts to have a roughness that conveys your level of confidence. If your AI first draft looks polished people may feel more pressure not to deviate. I find t…
> TFA says he's using it for storyboarding.
I'm not a fan of AI but this seems like a legit use for it. Story boarding is basically film prototyping, and one of AI's legit uses seems to be prototyping.
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#58I've noticed a tendency among people who have built careers known for visionary, forward-thinking work that they hesitate to make the natural move into more "conservative" positions/approaches as they age. This leads to missteps, because as one ages, one inevitably becomes further removed from the zeitgeist. On paper, embracing AI might seem like a great idea if you don't want to become an old fogey, but not all chan…
I think talented people will make great use of AI. They don't just prompt "make me a movie about stereotypical Italian Americans, and make it good". They observe the end result, tweak and do the manual work when needed. It's just another tool in the toolbox. Same as with coding.
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#59An imo fascinating wrinkle that the article doesn't get into, Black Forest's main use case for their Flux models is "analytical" (modifying the user's pre-existing material, storyboards in this case) rather than "generative" (modifying stored material from the model's training corpus). In my experience with these tools so far, the analytical approach is more filmmaker-friendly, with image models fitting comfortably i…
> “…modifying the user's pre-existing material, storyboards in this case…”
Let me understand this. You’re saying this Flux model takes as input your own images and drawings and then modifies them only?
If I understand this correctly, then it would get past the authorship safeguards public llms put up every time you ask for an illustration in the “style of”. Yes?
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am also curious whether a knee-jerk reaction to seeing the word A.I and assuming the worst will age well. It's not just you, this is media writ large now. Martin Scorsese is using AI to build better pre-viz tools not create scenes and write scripts, but that detail is completely lost on the literati. The reactions roll in.
It's going to be conveniently forgotten, like the people that were screaming at people for not wearing masks outside months (years!) after we understood covid. As a conflict averse society, we excuse people that indulge in these kinds of behaviors once they reach a critical mass. It's kind of like a conversion disorder. Covid is a good analogy here. We went seemingly overnight to righteous indignation to cold and flu…
Well said