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Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

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is remote attestation possible in a web browser already?

Mobile, yes. Not sure about desktop.

I’ve configured my browser to disable certain tech like webgl, I get infinite captchad by google. Using vanilla chrome works fine. It might not be full blown attestation but it’s not great.

Fuck you google for ever thinking infinite captchas are acceptable.

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

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So, to post something in 2027: - You have to have an approved browser. - It has to be installed on an approved platform, Google or Apple, for which you have a valid account. - You have to have an account on the posting platform. - You have to get past moderation on the posting platform. That's without age verification.

And you have to declare your accounts to border police prior to international travel.

Is that some US thing? As as European I've never experienced this, on any continent (barring Antarctica)

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#123

Back to the internet's peer-to-peer roots. Many protocols besides the www The www became infested with so-called "tech" companies acting as intermediaries (middlemen) Lots of folks making money from surveillance ad system on the www. Oversized, unmanageable websites calling themselves "platforms" The www is an ad network. Not a great place for non-commercial activity Fortunately, the internet is more than the www. Th…

Once again American capitalism ruins everything for everyone.

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#124
post #5

So, to post something in 2027: - You have to have an approved browser. - It has to be installed on an approved platform, Google or Apple, for which you have a valid account. - You have to have an account on the posting platform. - You have to get past moderation on the posting platform. That's without age verification.

And you have to declare your accounts to border police prior to international travel.

You don’t “have to”. They’re requested when travelling to the US - but from my experience it’s not enforced (at least not consistently, I’ve never been asked why it was blank on my forms)

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#125

One very simple way to give parents control over what their children see and participate in without violating everyone else’s privacy is to create adult and social TLDs and require these sites to migrate to them. So instagram.com becomes instagram.social, etc. Then mandate that all consumer network equipment mfrs and internet providers provide easily accessible ways to block these TLDs. Maybe combine that with some p…

I don't get why a problem specific of parenthood should apply to everyone else. Don't give your kid a smartphone then.

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#126

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It's the State's responsibility once something affects enough people. That's why a law like this makes sense but should exempt OSes under some number of users. It's not great that we have such a harsh divide between "do whatever you want so long as not too many people are bothered" and "alright now the people have spoken and it's a State/national law," but it's the system we have and better than the people only getti…

I think it only affects devices that are sold. So free software, you install yourself won’t meet that theshold.

Well it may end up with some porn-hungry kids compiling their own Unix core build on their own, not a bad even if unintended direction

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#127
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So, to post something in 2027: - You have to have an approved browser. - It has to be installed on an approved platform, Google or Apple, for which you have a valid account. - You have to have an account on the posting platform. - You have to get past moderation on the posting platform. That's without age verification.

And you have to declare your accounts to border police prior to international travel.

Are you referring to financial accounts or social media accounts? (If social media accounts, I'm guessing you're referring to the US specifically, and during advance visa processing rather than at the border.)

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

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It would be an excellent case for zero-knowledge cryptography:

All that you need to know is that I am above 18 years of age.

You don't need to know how old I am, what my birthday is, what state I was born in, my gender, or when my passport expires.

The downside with ZK cryptography is the complexity. Something would have to be insanely inconvenient to justify it.

Re: Age verification for social media, the beginning of the end for a free internet?

#129
ZKP is definitely a good idea, definitely more open for this kind of age verification than anything else. And I don't buy the argument of "closing internet", social networks are a proprietary service and if you don't want to obey with the regulations, create your own website and post things there if you want. However you have to provide your identity to the domain name registry or to the intermediary. Also other services require you to verify your age or even provide your identity, this is just another one that comes way too late.
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