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Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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> It is odd that they cite customer demand just after people leave Google for DuckDuckGo due to AI enshittification. You’ll probably find this is extremely limited to whatever circle you find yourself in

As long as the default on Chrome, Firefox, and Safari is Google, I doubt any of this "retaliatory flight" registers as even a blip.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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How is Alphabet suddenly short of capital?

Nobody has the capital to casually invest 200B PER YEAR, in cash, for multiple years. Literally nobody.

Masayoshi Son does a pretty good job of setting about that much cash aflame every year.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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Quoting: In addition, Alphabet has reached an agreement to sell $10 billion of stock to Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in a private placement, comprised of $5 billion in Class A Common Stock at a price of $351.81 per share and $5 billion in Class C Capital Stock at a price of $348.20 per share. This investment by Berkshire Hathaway adds to the position it has built since Q3 2025.

They know Google has a ton of data to train LLMs on. Recently I have been asking YouTube's new AI about some videos ("when is Steam metrics mentioned in the video?" for example), which means they also index videos. This is an unthinkable amount of data. I'm actually impressed at how bad Alphabet is with LLMs since they invented the thing as we know AND have all the data to train on, yet OpenAI and Anthropic are eatin…

Are you sure it’s not using transcripts? That would be equally useful but technologically less impressive.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Google is a bit sandbagging here knowing they have all the data and likely better models hiding. My theory is it's a bit of not disrupting the stock market direction by exposing whose really the boss. If they can do it cheaper, faster, and better, people start asking questions, especially with upcoming IPO's.

This makes no sense. Google is beholden to its own shareholders, not the markets at large. In any case, it's well known that devs in Google have liked anthropic/openai models for coding more than gemini, so unless they're hiding their best models from the people within, I think it's just the case that they're behind.

Google also owns 15% of anthropic.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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Quoting: In addition, Alphabet has reached an agreement to sell $10 billion of stock to Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in a private placement, comprised of $5 billion in Class A Common Stock at a price of $351.81 per share and $5 billion in Class C Capital Stock at a price of $348.20 per share. This investment by Berkshire Hathaway adds to the position it has built since Q3 2025.

It's genuinely interesting to see Google fund this with equity versus debt.

It's also interesting watching Alphabet buy back $100 billion of stock over the last two years, when the price was half what it is today, only to turn around and sell shares now at the higher price.

I know GAAP accounting won't recognize any capital gain on these treasury operations, but from an economic standpoint this financial judo creates a lot of value for existing shareholders.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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I don't understand where this $80B, +$150B for SpaceX, +$??B for each Anthropic and OpenAI is going to come from. There's not that much cash sitting around. Something is gonna need to get sold to transfer into those assets. Unless central banks are just going to print money to invest in these companies, I don't know who else is going to be able to take on enough debt to prevent massive sell offs somewhere for this. I…

I don't think you understand the size of the US capital market. We are talking probably ~150 trillion. It's easy as fuck for Google to raise this money because they are a money printing business. They are the most profitable company in the world, so for anyone this is basically the same as buying US debt.

> We are talking probably ~150 trillion.

Yes, but we are talking about liquidity not valuations...

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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Well, I mean, you'd expect this move to mechanically push share prices down.

Why? There’s $80B of dilution from new shares issued, so to keep share prices constant market cap would have to increase by $80B. Simultaneously, there $80B in additional assets on the balance sheet, so if the company was previously correctly valued at $N market cap it would now be correctly valued at $N+$80B market cap, right? My intuition is that capital raises, just like stock buybacks, should be first-order (“mec…

Maybe the market price drop has less to do with dilution, and more to do with suspending share buybacks for a while.

Re: Alphabet announces $80B equity capital raise to expand AI infra and compute

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It’s difficult to avoid the feeling that a horrible financial reckoning is on the way. All these big tech firms are spending wildly to make sure they are the one on top at the end of it all. But whoever that ends up being there’s going to be one hell of a lot of fallout underneath them.

Especially because LLMs have no moat and they’re strategy is basically “we’ll figure out AGI first”
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