Microsoft builds MacBook Pro rival with NVIDIA-powered Surface Laptop Ultra

Post by thewebguyd » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 8:28 PM UTC

bryanlarsen wrote: post #120

lnenad wrote: post #65

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It's not a valid comparison. Up until this (theoretical) machine, the playing field wasn't equal. Windows laptops in general couldn't really compare in many aspects with Macs since M1 (outside of gaming), batteries were horrible due to bad efficiency, performance wasn't amazing even with the best SKUs, and the distance between the vendor and Microsoft was always impacting different aspects of the finished product. Ev…

> Up until this (theoretical) machine, A little earlier than that. With Intel's Lunar Lake / Panther Lake, x86 laptops are again in the same ballpark as a Mac efficiency-wise. There are reputable reviews where people are getting 16-20 hours of battery life out of them doing real work, in both Windows & Linux. M5 is probably still better, but at least the x86 machines don't embarrass themselves any more.

Post by dcrazy » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 8:28 PM UTC

thewebguyd wrote: post #218

cesarvarela wrote: post #215

> It’s well known that the Surface trackpads are among the best in the industry, surpassing even MacBooks in several aspects What aspects are these?

solid glass haptic trackpad instead of a clicky, mechanical piece of junk one?

Post by illiac786 » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 8:31 PM UTC

chis wrote: post #207

iaaan wrote: post #196

I get that they're pushing AI really hard, but the article bearing so many of the hallmarks of being AI-generated almost feels crass, like there are no humans at the company who feel strongly enough about this device to author 5-6 enthusiastic paragraphs about its features, they had to outsource to something that can somewhat convincingly mimic enthusiasm. Yet I'm supposed to care...

It's also shockingly twitter-nerd-coded. "The cure for token anxiety", it advertises. To be honest it's hard to see why anyone would buy this product so maybe they decided to take a wild swing with the marketing. The only use is people who really, really, want to run models locally vs getting a much cheaper and higher performance result from a cloud host.

Post by AustinDev » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 8:37 PM UTC

RankingMember wrote: post #170

My experience with Surfaces and, particularly, the Surface Book and its accompanying dock were such that I'd have to be paid to use one again. For example, the dock would get its own updates silently and brick itself randomly and the proprietary magnetic connector between the dock and the computer was prone to a poor connection. I remember many occasions trying to work and my screens just randomly blinking in and out…

Post by cobalt » Mon, Jun 01, 2026, 8:49 PM UTC

anonymars wrote: post #200

RankingMember wrote: post #170

My experience with Surfaces and, particularly, the Surface Book and its accompanying dock were such that I'd have to be paid to use one again. For example, the dock would get its own updates silently and brick itself randomly and the proprietary magnetic connector between the dock and the computer was prone to a poor connection. I remember many occasions trying to work and my screens just randomly blinking in and out…

My absolute favorite fact about the Surface is that if the battery runs out, the Surface Dock power is unable to bootstrap it. You have to plug in a charger Not sure if that's still the case but truly astonishing https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/surface-dock/tro...