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What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
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Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#222All companies I worked, big or small, local or remote. All of them stopped hirokg juniors long time ago.
I have a guess that Juniors are much weaker today + AI + bad economy + (what I call) immediatism*
I don't agree with remote work arguments because I saw that before with remote companies and totally works
No company is investing for the next 10 years, not even 5 depending on the scale.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#223The trouble with hiring juniors now is it's much more difficult to get them up to speed so they can be productive. Before covid, you'd sit next to them, get asked questions every so often, do some pair programming, and discuss ideas over lunch. You can, on paper, do the same exact things over Slack and Zoom. But there's much more friction. And a junior that's struggling is a lot less visible than it used to be. So wh…
It’s not hard. You give them mentorship and time. Even as a senior engineer, I’ve found it difficult to get assistance at times from team members. Everyone is more focused on knocking at tickets for tomorrow’s standup, and there’s a disincentive to spend time on anything other than doing your own work.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading comments like this is like watching an impaired pedestrian about to be run over by an approaching bus. You yell, you wave your arms, but they aren't paying attention. There's no way to warn them, so all you can do is... watch.
> There's no way to warn them, so all you can do is... watch …and then wake up from the nightmare wishing the stress from the job is lower. I can only laugh that some people truly believe that developers, one of the most ardent group at automating the tedious part of their job, would refuse to use an effective tool. You only need to look at the open source world to see people litterally scratching their own hitch eve…
What if I don't want to automate away the part of my job that I actually like doing? What if, in my job as a programmer, I actually want to do programming?
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#225I'm all in for remote working. My first job out of college has been remote. As much as I would love for a senior to help me out when stuck, my org completely made it clear they needed juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding. It's frowned upon to not have domain knowledge there, and in fact within month of joining I had to answer any questions related to the domain handed to me. Thi…
Counter point: If it had been onsite, there would be a full layer of social sensibilities and grace from the colleagues you work with every day, helping you out.
Conversely, it is much easier, on several levels, to support and guide someone you spend your whole day and go to lunch with.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#226I'm all in for remote working. My first job out of college has been remote. As much as I would love for a senior to help me out when stuck, my org completely made it clear they needed juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding. It's frowned upon to not have domain knowledge there, and in fact within month of joining I had to answer any questions related to the domain handed to me. Thi…
This kind of company does not want "juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding", they want do-it-all people on the cheap. They just don't know what it takes to do things the right way. It's not unusual that the organization is a mess as well, because management is unable to organize it.
Get out of it, this kind of companies have a dysfunctional management. After the initial learning, they will be unable to recognize your value and contribution.
Also, don't feel guilty about getting burnt out. It's not your fault and you got tougher.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#227What if there are several reasons all at once?
* Economy is tighter overall.
* Covid overhiring followed by firing means fresh graduates face competition from a large cohort of people with a few years of work experience.
* Even if it's not necessarily true, if the C-suite _believes_ that AI can replace juniors, that's enough to funnel money away from hiring and into AI investments. When money for hiring is tight, seniors are prioritized.
* Like it or not, workforce immigration (such as H-1B) causes displacement.
* The number of CS graduates in the US has doubled over the last decade.
In Sweden, fresh graduates across a number of fields are having a hard time finding jobs. Many of thosee seem to have either a STEM education affected by a dip in "green" capex/investments, or in "overhead" sectors likely to be tightened in bad times, such as HR specialists.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#228I'm all in for remote working. My first job out of college has been remote. As much as I would love for a senior to help me out when stuck, my org completely made it clear they needed juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding. It's frowned upon to not have domain knowledge there, and in fact within month of joining I had to answer any questions related to the domain handed to me. Thi…
The role you've described is a senior one, not a junior one :)
They're demanding you evolve beyond your capabilities without time, experience, or mentorship.
Expecting domain knowledge at the junior level is weird. It's like being an expert at entry level.
I know it doesn't help all that much to hear, but here's a sign so you at least know you're not crazy. That's not okay and that's not a healthy org.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#229I'm all in for remote working. My first job out of college has been remote. As much as I would love for a senior to help me out when stuck, my org completely made it clear they needed juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding. It's frowned upon to not have domain knowledge there, and in fact within month of joining I had to answer any questions related to the domain handed to me. Thi…
This kind of company does not want "juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding", they want do-it-all people on the cheap. They just don't know what it takes to do things the right way. It's not unusual that the organization is a mess as well, because management is unable to organize it. Get out of it, this kind of companies have a dysfunctional management. After the initial learning,…
Super +1. Burnout is not failure.
Re: What if remote working, not AI, is to blame for weak junior hiring?
#230I'm all in for remote working. My first job out of college has been remote. As much as I would love for a senior to help me out when stuck, my org completely made it clear they needed juniors who could independently own products end to end without handholding. It's frowned upon to not have domain knowledge there, and in fact within month of joining I had to answer any questions related to the domain handed to me. Thi…
I'm between junior and medior right now.
This might be egotistical so take it with a grain of salt, but I've started realizing that there's no compensation for me anymore if I do well. Tldr the company im working for has a lot of gaps I could put effort in and make it perform well, but it's not my company, so I don't.
Why would I? what's in it for me? Will I stay there after 5 years?
This isn't even limited to me. I talk to colleagues that could improve our current position if they were being put on the issues at hand. They're not being utilized, so they just do whatever.
Companies expect us to do this proactively, because we're such good workers.
I've done my fair share of overworking myself for a company that ditched me once I'm burnt out. It's kind of like ego-death, but for validation. You realize that all this effort is futile. The company grew, you didn't. In one year all the higher-ups have a fancier title and you're still the dev.