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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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ChatGPT dropped the ball for a while that most devs and technical people went to Claude for a year or more, they still probably have the most normie market share + are at least trying to win back some of that delay in their latest model so it'd be interesting to see

The "normie" market doesn't pay for enterprise features though. They might cost more in inference then they make back from advertising.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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The models aside, my impression is that Anthropic is winning in large part because of very pragmatic and high-velocity product development on top of them; like with Claude Code.

Like actually iterating hard to make them useful. Many, many details matter here.

I haven't tested the similar OpenAI/Google tools in detail lately though. Previously I found them way too generic and unpolished to be useful.

Is there something to this?

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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codex gtp-5.5 is far superior to opus 4.7 working on large projects

GPT-5.5 is the better programmer but Opus 4.8 remains the better system architect and product designer. Codex is very "miss the forest for the trees", but is much better at successfully making large changes in large codebases. Claude Code makes more mistakes, but has more taste and a better grasp on idiomatic and elegant software development. If you can afford to, I recommend juggling both.

I find arguing that a complex weighted graph has a taste is interesting.

This is not a jab, but a genuine curiosity of mine.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

Everyone can be propagandised. It's a matter of pushing the right buttons.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

I think for developers the distinction is that ChatGPT is this commercial all in one solution for normies and Claude is specific for developers, in reality as you say the results for normal developers is indistinguishable.

Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

Everyone can be propagandised. It's a matter of pushing the right buttons.

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Re: Anthropic surpasses OpenAI to become most valuable AI startup

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I never want to hear from developers again that they are not susceptible to marketing. I see meet ups specifically about Claude often. Modern tupperware party. A colleague was convinced Claude is better so we played a game. We used the claude code and codex harness and I implemented some prs they needed with gpt5.5 and opus4.7 and asked them to identify which came from which only from the code. Couldn’t tell. Edit: i…

> Couldn’t tell.

I can tell. It's night and day.

Last year I used a bunch of models to try to generate Rust code. They all sucked.

This February I tried again and used Claude to generate Rust code. I have never been more stunned in my life. It's just as good as I am, and 30x faster. No fluff, the code is verbatim just as I would have written.

I then tried other models. Total disappointment.

I've continued to repeat this experiment. Opus is the only model that can write Rust reasonably.

Codex produces junk to this day. It passes variables that aren't needed, it abuses pointers, it creates overly verbose monstrosities...

I don't want any single company to win. I want OpenAI to be competitive. I want open source models to win. But right now, Claude Code and Opus are it.

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