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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by archagon »

hennell wrote: post #690
codeflo wrote: post #491

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> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

> What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. I feel like one of the less discussed issues of the hyper-connected world is there are no small ponds to be the big fish in anymore. Used to be you could be the best in your school, church, town even city etc - even if you weren't that good. I remember being astounded as a kid by a…

What is "the top" anyway? See punk rock. You don't have to be the best performer, best singer, best songwriter, best anything to have an entire generation's eyes on you.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by [deleted] »

echelon wrote: post #780
f4 wrote: post #736

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That video isn't helping your case. That's not to say you can't make effortful novel content using AI, but this is just lazy hollow stimulation. Like all the laziest of AMVs, nothing to say outside of "isn't this cool?". We want to see the person underneath and what ideas they explore through the medium - AI is just a fancy new tool of the times. Who cares what brush or canvas Vincent used to make Starry Night? Witho…

I don't have to convince the lot of you anti-tech "yelling at cloud" engineers. Social media already shows people love this stuff. It's only the 1% of terminally online whiners that have to project their take on it. And I've worked with enough artists that kick ass with these tools to know this is the new normal.

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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

bad_haircut72 wrote: post #708
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

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kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

do you have kids?

yes, several, lmao

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

untitled-now wrote: post #693
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

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kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

I guess it depends on the age of the kid , if a kid is 11-12-13 yo , you can hardly do anything about it. I remember of how I was at that age , now I am 38.

Actually, you can. If parents are somehow powerless by the time their kids achieve some independence, again, that's bad parenting.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

solumunus wrote: post #718
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

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kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

Ours conditionally get extremely limited and supervised screen time. I feel this is the way to do it.

Hm, what do you mean by "extremely limited and supervised"?

I think absolute 0 is best for as long as possible. If you never introduce them to the drug, they'll never have the craving for it.

That's obviously difficult, practically, and we like movies, so we'll watch about a movie a week... but even I feel that is too much.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

keybored wrote: post #743
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

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kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

Back in my kid days we had friends who had game consoles and PCs. I know it’s quaint now but we watched each other play and played on the same computer or TV. There wasn’t a way to avoid tainting our minds no matter how much they tried to protect us from duh screens. Okay I guess if they raised us like some rural homeschooling Christians, but for some reason people will complain about that kind of parenting too.

"rural homeschooling Christians"

Hey i like that!

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cynicalpeace »

dmos62 wrote: post #709
cynicalpeace wrote: post #691

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kids simply shouldn't be looking at a screen, AI-generated or not. Screen time for kids (and adults for that matter!) should be way way scaled back. That falls on the parents. Bad parents give their kids phones and tablets and that's a hill I will die on.

Many parents find parenthood difficult and are happy that something distracts their kid. Further, kids that tend to get more addicted to stuff like this tend to live in stressful circumstances. It's easy to say be a better parent, or produce a better environment for your kid, but it's not as easy to help people with that. If we can make social media healthier for everyone, that's a big deal.

"If we can make cocaine healthier for everyone, that's a big deal" technically true, but also, don't use cocaine.

I get parents use it to babysit their kids. That's bad parenting. I'm a parent. I know it's not easy, and tempting to use it.

But you're not supposed to yield to those temptations. Part of being a leader, which is what being a parent is, is sucking it up.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by zerd »

stratos123 wrote: post #802
pibaker wrote: post #801

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Do you browse HN only with https://news.ycombinator.com/newest ? Or is the HN algorithm kosher in a way other algorithms aren't?

HN's algorithm is in fact kosher, because it's not personalized. On HN, arguing with people on topic X will not make you get shown even more articles on topic X to keep you engaged. Reddit-like platforms are similarly okay (you personalize your experience by subscribing) and short video platforms like Tiktok are the great evil.

Reddit “best” sorting is pretty much like instagram and TikTok now, have to make sure it on hot/top, otherwise it’ll show you “related” things from subreddits you never subscribed to.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Timwi »

sublinear wrote: post #812
MichaelZuo wrote: post #809

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If you don’t assess people based on their actions… then how do you assess them? From my experience actions are easily worth thousands of times more than any other criteria.

Attaboy you're on the right track! We're almost in agreement. I'm saying that you cannot accurately assess people at all! All you can do is guess. But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions.

> But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions.

This is obviously false. Every developer has had hour-long debugging sessions to track down a mysterious behavior. Sometimes entire teams are stumped by a technical glitch. Until the bug is found, nobody knows everything about the machine.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by Timwi »

muwtyhg wrote: post #797
munk-a wrote: post #755

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It's a tool. Tools can be used for good or ill. This tool is the hotness right now so it's quite overused in a lot of poorly fitting situations. This particular usage serves no socially beneficial purpose and needs to be regulated into non-existence (we at least shouldn't pay people to do it). The tool is still useful for a bunch of things but some people get irrationally defensive if you critique their favorite tool…

In your opinion, what is the positive aspect of this kind of AI video/voice generation tool that these videos are using? In my opinion, AI video/voice generation is being used to scam and manipulate people en masse, without a compelling, good use case besides generating more (slop) content.

When someone uses AI to make a video, they either have nefarious purposes (such as scamming) in mind or they don't. That's not a matter of your opinion. It's not hard to picture someone making a video with innocuous intent to inform or entertain and using AI in the process does not suddenly make their intention a malicious one.
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