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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csomar »

kolektiv wrote: post #556
sevenzero wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>we need to stop filming people As live music enjoyer and person that was commonly around safe spaces in the techno scene I cant agree more. Fuck filming people.

It's not even just music anymore. I love motor racing, but at the last meeting I went to, sat in the stands at an iconic first corner, tense with anticipation as the race started... Everyone around me sat there holding their phones up, filming it. I couldn't even see properly because of the forest of arms. People don't just... experience... something now. What's even more ridiculous is that this wasn't a small race -…

They are going to the event in order to broadcast to their friends (or their profile feed) that they have gone to the events. Once I understood this, it made sense why filming is the most important thing for them in the event. They are not there for the race.

Glad I left social media (if you don't count HN). It'll be almost a decade soon since I deleted all my accounts.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by csomar »

madrox wrote: post #525
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

I was in a park today, and I watched a man play a saxaphone. Other people had stopped to listen to him play. It occurred to me that we appreciate this kind of public performance, but we get annoyed if someone plays their boombox too loud in public. I tend to agree with you about participation, but I feel like there is a note unsung here.

The way I see it. The saxophone player is annoying other people but he is showing his skills to the public. I can tolerate that and let it slip. On the other hand, the boombox jerk is playing music that anyone can privately play. The park is a public space and you should use headphones for that.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by thrownaway561 »

This is what YouTube needs to start doing:

1. Allow us to filter any and all content based on category or tag, this would include AI tagged videos 2. Demonetize any and all videos that incentivize antagonizing people (Looking at you prank videos) 3. Allow the reporting of video for "Criminal Activities" 4. Bring back the number of dislikes 5. Put the "not interested" option on video playback page (currently only on the video thumbnail) 6. Put the "do no recommend this channel" option on the video playback page (currently only on the video thumbnail)

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by wiseowise »

kolektiv wrote: post #556
sevenzero wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>we need to stop filming people As live music enjoyer and person that was commonly around safe spaces in the techno scene I cant agree more. Fuck filming people.

It's not even just music anymore. I love motor racing, but at the last meeting I went to, sat in the stands at an iconic first corner, tense with anticipation as the race started... Everyone around me sat there holding their phones up, filming it. I couldn't even see properly because of the forest of arms. People don't just... experience... something now. What's even more ridiculous is that this wasn't a small race -…

And I can guarantee that most of them won't rewatch it.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by wiseowise »

spullara wrote: post #227
ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

> All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her?

How much music do you even need? Is she listening 24/7?

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cluckindan »

microtonal wrote: post #587
codeflo wrote: post #491

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> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

I think it's part of the main character syndrome that social media invoked in most of us. Everybody wants to tell the story of their lives (but nobody really cares). In the old days e.g. concerts were for enjoying the music together with people you did and didn't know. The best concerts were those where you were left sweaty from (slam)dancing with everyone in the pit on music that was even better-performed than on CD…

Thing is, if you are not a person who blends into the mass of ”normal”, you need to tell the story of your life. You already stick out like a sore thumb, and you need to explain to others why.

In other words, you need to be in control of your own narrative, or someone else will do it for you to fill the void. For example, someone can use cold reading to deduce what others suspect and fear and then paint you in that specific light, essentially planting individually targeted nasty rumours about you while increasing their rapport with others. That kind of rumours tend to spread.

Eventually you become the outcast in your social circles and you will be hard pressed to regain control of ”you” in the eyes of others.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by cluckindan »

ChickeNES wrote: post #571
kuerbel wrote: post #538

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Haha, I get it. Just took him as an example because, in my experience, he is a famous pianist people recognise even if they don't listen to that kind of music. Maybe Vladimir Horowitz would be a better example.

I think the average person has no idea who either of those people are. I think Liszt or Rachmaninov would be better reference points.

The average person sees a synthesizer keyboard and thinks ”piano”.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by latentsea »

cameronh90 wrote: post #402
latentsea wrote: post #379

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> There is personal expression in the lyrics. Sometimes there is. Sometimes it's just made up shit with no real backing in the same way a lot of stories told in comedy routines are. Not all of it is genuine expression. I love music and I frequently go to live shows, so the bar for me has kind of become "Can I go see this artist live, OR is it so good that I don't care that I can't?" If it passes that, I'll listen. I'…

> outputs default ChatGPT sounding lyrics Aren’t you curious how a modern solar panel works so well with no moving parts?

I'll bet you "neon" is somewhere in those lyrics.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by [deleted] »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by filoeleven »

injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

https://fuckoffaimusic.com/

Q: What about the people doing interesting things with AI in their music? Some people are doing interesting things so isn’t it worth giving those ones a chance?

A: sorry maybe they are but unfortunately i’m part of the fuck off ai music movement so count me out?

Q: But AI is just another way for people to express themselves

A: sorry that may or may not be the case but either way i’m part of the fuck off ai music movement?

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