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All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

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Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#41
You can use it to browse flavor combinations here, seems quite neat!

https://epicure.kaikaku.ai/

That being said, I'm not excited about the idea of this being used to automate cooking somehow.

Food, to me, is part of what makes us human, where we express our soul for lack of a better word.

The idea of taking that away feels like robbing us of our humanity.

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#43
I don't really understand, what the Graphs on page 9 and 13 represent, but they look somewhat like a world map with the continents. I wouldn't be surprised if there's actually a geographic connection. A lot of ingrediants are probably more prevalent in certain world regions.

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#44

Neat. I'm trying to compress recipes into little schematics https://leontrolski.github.io/recipes.html

Now this I love. It respects the craft of cooking and the human element, while giving instructions in an easy to grok and straightforward way.

Great job!

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#45
I saw this on X/Twitter. I do not believe that human cooking, and all of its techniques and ingredients and the various ways that things can be prepared in different cultural contexts can be compressed in to 2 megabytes.

It is sort of like saying here is a 1GB model that can do tool calling and coding and then you try it out and it barely functions. Yes, it technically is a 1GB coding model, but it isn't a good one.

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

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post #39

>from 11 sources spanning seven languages, English, Chinese, Russian, Vietnamese, Spanish, Turkish, Indonesian, German, and Indian-English So hardly "all of human cooking"...

Yes. I mean if you look at the corpus basically HALF of recipes are Chinese/Korean.

They do quickly acknowledge it, but definitely not a balanced set.

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#49
post #5

Neat. I'm trying to compress recipes into little schematics https://leontrolski.github.io/recipes.html

Ahh - the dependency graph recipe card. These are excellent. I've imagined something like this forever. Always annoyed that recipes put ingredients in a giant undifferentiated list and then give an instruction like "mix the dry ingredients in a deep bowl". For a while I expected there could be a good return on a good implementation of this, but now as soon as a strong interface itself is created it seems easy to copy…

Feels like one might be able to get an llm to convert an annoying to read recipe into a mermaid dependency graph following this example. Might be worth a try!

Re: All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes

#50

The work is very interesting. The title is misleading. A better title would be: "all of human ingredients compressed into 1,800 primitives" There is little to substantively nothing about the actual cooking: preparation methods, proportions, etc. But the idea that tomato goes well with beef the whole world over is very interesting and useful for creating flavors that will go together, perhaps surprisingly. It will be…

I have a wonderful book that explores this idea of an atlas of flavours that work together.

The flavor bible.

I can assure you that it does not contain 1800 ingredients in all of there combinations, but it does a remarkable job of covering a widely used selection of herbs spices vegetables and meats. I doubt a compressed version of the text would even be very large.

The trouble I find with LLM generated recipes is they miss the nuance of the technique. Often the success of a depends on a single step or ratio. For instance “fried chicken” has a million incarnations the world over, but you can’t just average out the recipes and end up with tasty fried chicken.

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