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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by testfrequency »

torben-friis wrote: post #60

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

I’ve distanced myself from a close friend group chat over the past few years as they seem to be more and more like this. They all work in tech at various FAANG companies, and I just mentally hate engaging anymore as it all has turned into “let me prove you wrong in 10s or find nuance in this conversation I don’t already have” by referencing AI. It’s like the Google search nerd snipe crowd 2.0, and I’m not entertaining them. I’ve had to flat out tell them they are wrong as they source a clearly inaccurate AI response, which is even more strain on the friendship.

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Post by thesamethrowawa »

p2detar wrote: post #17

> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer. That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior. It's still a bit better at my workplace bu…

> That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.

With some notable exceptions, this describes almost every business owner I've worked with.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by ramon156 »

p2detar wrote: post #17

> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer. That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior. It's still a bit better at my workplace bu…

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Post by xen_relay »

dgellow wrote: post #59
xen_relay wrote: post #19

A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.

Hope the heat doesn’t impact your travel plans too much. Feel free to reach out if you’re around Hamburg, always happy to meet HNers

The heat is ferocious indeed! I will, thank you!

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by ako »

jvanderbot wrote: post #182
chongli wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it laziness? Or is it frustration from answering the same basic beginner questions over and over again? It should be considered common courtesy that when you ask a question you have at least attempted a bit of research to find the answer on your own. Then you can explain why your attempt to Google for the answer failed. Of course that may be breaking down, as search engine results quality has declined dramatically…

It may not be laziness, but it is definitely entirely lacking in empathy. Using AI reflexively assumes that you have a tool that they do not, or that they are not motivated or smart enough to use before coming to you. LMGTFY is directly a laziness-rebuff for this reason - everyone has and already uses google. Why would you assume that your coworkers are lazy or not smart as a first step in any interaction? There are…

I’m using ai to answer questions, but I instruct it in draft what answers to include, what info to include from my llm wiki (second brain). Saves time to write a correct response, can easily refer to past conversations, but definitely not 100% outsources to AI.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by xen_relay »

Invictus0 wrote: post #41
xen_relay wrote: post #19

A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.

I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.

I am in Budapest tomorrow. Lmk if you want to meet for a coffee :)

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Post by dalmo3 »

lionkor wrote: post #124
agumonkey wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not trying to defend ai but I observed another mode: what used to be bored dev chats where people avoided topics or started feuds, now it's "well Claude suggests...". It's not great but it's a short form of improvement somehow. (Sure I'd prefer passionate convos steering toward innovation, but that's been a rare sight in my career)

No it isn't an improvement. If I wanted the output of an LLM instead of a thinking, smart, real human, I would have simply asked an LLM. Nearly nobody who asks humans questions WANTS to get an LLM answer, that's simply not why people ask other people.

I agree with your sentiment from the perspective of the asker.

But if I'm the askee, I honestly don't know how to navigate those waters yet.

If someone asks me for help and I can find, through AI, a thread to explore, but I don't have time to explore it myself, should I not share?

Do I say "Have you tried X?", where X is the thing the LLM suggested? Should I pretend that I did not ask the LLM?

In the past, I could find some source and send them the link, and I wouldn't assume the person had exhausted the entire Google index. Sending a link isn't the same as LMGTFY.

Analogously, while "Claude says X" does sound as rude as lmgtfy, disclosing that your suggestion was found via llm is more akin to linking to a source, or "take this with a grain of salt".

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Post by sethops1 »

lizknope wrote: post #152
chadgpt3 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit has fallen. Stop wasting your time there. Reddit makes money from spam accounts. Even before LLMs, they'd ban you for reporting the wrong spambots, those being the ones that pay Reddit for priority access. The replies to the LLM post are probably LLMs themselves.

I've already unsubcribed to a bunch of subreddits because the moderators did nothing to stop the slop. I almost never go to the main "popular" page as it is full of garbage. But I was still enjoying my niche subreddits. But in the last year the amount of AI slop has exploded and it is getting worse every day. Reposts of things from less than a week ago. Really vague technical questions with emdashes, bullet points, a…

I think about how violently HN (in general) reacts to technology like Web Environment Integrity which could enable websites to relatively easily block AI spam, and at the same time opine about the days of being able to talk to (just) humans online. Personally I'd be fine at this point for _some_ kind of identity based authentication for discussion forums, at least. I'm tired of hearing ChatGPT's opinion on things.
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