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I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

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I recently had someone send me a PCAP file with a network package dump suggesting that the error is on my side.

I threw it to Claude and a minute later had a "look at packet 131 and 136, it's on their side."

Yeah, it is exhausting to read verbose slop. But you're the author.

I used to be extremely verbose, and AI has helped me appreciate brevity because now I'm being exposed to it.

I would love to be without the "Top 5 Kubernetes commands" slop images LinkedIn feeds me.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#152

I'm tired of talking to people telling them to stop talking to an AI AI generated slop has exploded across reddit. Last year I would see about 1 obvious AI generated post and report it. Today I've already reported 5 posts and it is 7am here. The posts are some technical topic but there isn't even really a question in the post and then it ends with "thoughts about this?" and people try to clarify with the OP what the…

Reddit has fallen. Stop wasting your time there. Reddit makes money from spam accounts. Even before LLMs, they'd ban you for reporting the wrong spambots, those being the ones that pay Reddit for priority access. The replies to the LLM post are probably LLMs themselves.

I've already unsubcribed to a bunch of subreddits because the moderators did nothing to stop the slop.

I almost never go to the main "popular" page as it is full of garbage.

But I was still enjoying my niche subreddits. But in the last year the amount of AI slop has exploded and it is getting worse every day. Reposts of things from less than a week ago. Really vague technical questions with emdashes, bullet points, and ending in "thoughts?" that generate a discussion but the OP bot never replies or has vague 1 word comments.

I know that reddit makes money from ads so more bots mean more traffic which means more ads and more money.

But it is sad watching communities because useless and die.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#153
On the other hand, I recently had a problem with my grocery order from Sam’s Club (the onions were smashed) and had to call to get it hopefully addressed. Talked to an LLM for 30 seconds after 0 wait and it was resolved. No accent I could barely understand, no potato microphone, no being put on hold for 5 minutes in the middle while they do whatever.

Just I’m an AI, I might fuck this up, what do you need, is this about your most recent order? Yes, my onions got smashed. Ok do you want a refund? Yes. The end.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#155

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Nothing feels quite as good as getting dumb and drooling literally. Being intelligent is painful, it’s the most painful state of existence. You see everything with mind bending clarity. The inane nonsense of it all

No wonder the mind instinctively recoils and wants to smoothen itself

For past ten years my life consisted mainly of desperately trying to be dumb and happy. AI is really good tool for that. Just outsource the thinking until the organ atrophies, hopefully permanently. some drugs and the life gets actually even pleasurable.

To be aware is a curse, no wonder desperate attempts to lift it take place en masse

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humans writing more like LLMs, just like new LLMs write more like humans, it's all coalescing into one. I've copied-pasted comments I made on HN from like 2020 and had it tell me it's "100% AI". I've seen examples where the services claim "100% AI" because there was no normal dashes, only em-dashes. Even have a recent example from HN itself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48165690 > This reads very AI. Pangram…

Your evidence seems very anecdata. The graphite.io study does make an effort to quantify the false positive and false negative rates of the three detectors, rather than just saying “they work”. They generate 2000 ai articles and ask the detectors to evaluate them, measuring the false negatives (articles falsely IDd as human written); and they use a separate pre-AI dataset (years 2000-2022) to determine false positive…

Yeah, I suppose it is, I haven't finished my dissertation on it yet, I'll get right on that :)

Throughout them being available I've tried them every now and then, both with AI generated trash and my own pre-LLM writings, and had about 0% success in getting them to accurately report what it actually is. Maybe my writing style and what specific LLM you use matters a lot, I'm sure these platform's training data is mostly from the mainstream models so as soon as you use anything else, they'll get trivially lost. But again, I don't have any evidence and proof behind this, based only on when I've tried to evaluate them myself in the past.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#157

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

True but how many times have people sent someone "let me google that for you". Some people are inherently lazy and unload their laziness to someone else to do the thinking for them. I still think sending someone an AI answer is terrible but then again, if you are going to ask me for help, at least make some effort first. EDIT: By laziness I mean that there are known places (they know of) with documentation that cover…

Is it laziness? Or is it frustration from answering the same basic beginner questions over and over again?

It should be considered common courtesy that when you ask a question you have at least attempted a bit of research to find the answer on your own. Then you can explain why your attempt to Google for the answer failed.

Of course that may be breaking down, as search engine results quality has declined dramatically in recent years.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#158

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Seems have to make a face to face appointment, without any online devices in hand.

Re: I'm Tired of Talking to AI

#160

>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer. This is the killer issue. It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

Is that a feeling you battled a lot growing up or something? It's very specific, and not actually very connected or sensible.
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