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Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by lordofgibbons »

Aurornis wrote: post #26
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #19

Since the 3rd party providers on openrouter have all converged on much higher prices in serving these models (both mimo and dsv4), there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much. It's possible they've finally integrated cheap(er) chinese chips. It's also possible they're just subsidising inference for real-world usage data. Interesting either way.

> there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much. Same reason they release some of the models for free: They are trying to capture market share.

The difference is that releasing the model for free doesn't have ongoing cost for the company. Providing cheap tokens is very expensive - specially if you don't have access to the latest transistor node chips. So I think the parent comment is right, there's something else at play allowing DS and Xiaomi to offer these nearly free tokens.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by artnanika »

prodigycorp wrote: post #27

How realistic is this: Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said. Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well) Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't…

You're projecting the US doing this with criticism of Trump and Israel on China, when there's no proof of China ever doing something like this.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by artnanika »

axus wrote: post #35
vasco wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://immpolicytracking.org/policies/reported-french-scien... > CBP denies travelers entry because of anti-Trump comments

China won't deny entry for anti-Trump comments, guess I'll use MiMo

China also won't deny entry for anti-Israel comments, so even more reason to use MiMo.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by Arcuru »

wg0 wrote: post #29

That's deliberate. US AI companies have no chance of recouping even fraction of their valuations. PS: Have not tried this but Deepseev4 Flash (not even Deepseekv4 Pro version) with set to "high" has pretty much Claud Opus 4.7 level of capabilities and is lightening fast and dirty cheap. Hours and hours of conversation barely costs few cents.

I am very happy with DSv4 for their price/performance but neither of them are comparable to Opus.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by admiralrohan »

Everyone already said what I wanted to say. That all US companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, MS Copilot) have increased price recently while Chinese companies (Deepseek, Xiaomi) are reducing price.

The question is how they are managing to do so? They are supposed to struggle due to chip sanctions.

Secondly, why now? The US companies were supposed to subsidize too but now they are unable to keep up. Everyone going to usage based pricing, so it's unsustainable for them. They are well funded too.

If there are genuine hardware breakthrough reducing compute needs then that is good for the whole world I believe.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by tartoran »

admiralrohan wrote: post #47

Everyone already said what I wanted to say. That all US companies (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, MS Copilot) have increased price recently while Chinese companies (Deepseek, Xiaomi) are reducing price. The question is how they are managing to do so? They are supposed to struggle due to chip sanctions. Secondly, why now? The US companies were supposed to subsidize too but now they are unable to keep up. Everyone going to…

Competition I guess, they must be burning some resources to make this price reduction happen...

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by dubcanada »

zrn900 wrote: post #22
rjhy2020 wrote: post #2

OK. Google was just killed. How is it possible to reduce the price by 99%??????? This is crazy

- Cheap electricity - Cheap, domestically produced GPUs - Efficiency research by many phDs. (many AI companies used Deepseek's research though)

Industrial Chinese electricity costs is similar to that of Texas, It's 8-9cents a kWh. The only benefit is industrial China decides to put millions of solar panels down, so "peak" sunlight hours can drop electricity costs significantly since their rates are highly dynamic.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by tartoran »

Arcuru wrote: post #46
wg0 wrote: post #29

That's deliberate. US AI companies have no chance of recouping even fraction of their valuations. PS: Have not tried this but Deepseev4 Flash (not even Deepseekv4 Pro version) with set to "high" has pretty much Claud Opus 4.7 level of capabilities and is lightening fast and dirty cheap. Hours and hours of conversation barely costs few cents.

I am very happy with DSv4 for their price/performance but neither of them are comparable to Opus.

But they're overall a good thing for us consumers even if we'll never use these models, it forces the prices down all around.
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