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Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by martinald »

MaxPock wrote: post #10
CachedaCodes wrote: post #6

These and the Deepseek ones that were were cost reduced recently are perfectly capable models for the vast majority of light work and more. It's funny thinking the US companies are hiking prices and Chinese ones do the opposite, it's obviously an strategy, but pretty funny

How are these "capacity constrained" Chinese companies running inference without Hoppers and Blackwells ?

They can (not entirely sure how 'grey' market this is) either have subsidiaries outside of china (eg: singapore) that provide the inference and/or just rent it off the public gpu clouds.

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Post by zrn900 »

rjhy2020 wrote: post #2

OK. Google was just killed. How is it possible to reduce the price by 99%??????? This is crazy

- Cheap electricity - Cheap, domestically produced GPUs - Efficiency research by many phDs. (many AI companies used Deepseek's research though)

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Post by zrn900 »

culi wrote: post #16
han1 wrote: post #4

Like I said. China doesn't care about money. We want AI in people's hands.

I mean the AI companies probably just want to make American model pricing look ridiculous in comparison (it's working imo). I think the government probably wants actually-useful AI that could be put into chips and actually revolutionize factory work or mining or whatever. Large, SOTA models are not gonna change factory work but extremely efficient and optimized models may Every industry-wide scale technological revol…

> I mean the AI companies probably just want to make American model pricing look ridiculous in comparison (it's working imo)

I really don't think China cares about that. Chinese government's governance logic is making everything so cheap that everyone can get and use it. They did it with EVs and other things. Now they are doing it with the AI.

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Post by zrn900 »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #19

Since the 3rd party providers on openrouter have all converged on much higher prices in serving these models (both mimo and dsv4), there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much. It's possible they've finally integrated cheap(er) chinese chips. It's also possible they're just subsidising inference for real-world usage data. Interesting either way.

> how/why are they lowering the prices so much

Like I responded to someone else:

- Cheap electricity - Cheap, domestically produced GPUs - Efficiency research. (a lot of it from Deepseek's research)

Also, the Chinese government wants the AI to be as accessible as EVs so everyone will use it.

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Post by Aurornis »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #19

Since the 3rd party providers on openrouter have all converged on much higher prices in serving these models (both mimo and dsv4), there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much. It's possible they've finally integrated cheap(er) chinese chips. It's also possible they're just subsidising inference for real-world usage data. Interesting either way.

> there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much.

Same reason they release some of the models for free: They are trying to capture market share.

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Post by prodigycorp »

How realistic is this:

Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said.

Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well)

Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't feel bad about resisting.

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Post by greenavocado »

zrn900 wrote: post #22
rjhy2020 wrote: post #2

OK. Google was just killed. How is it possible to reduce the price by 99%??????? This is crazy

- Cheap electricity - Cheap, domestically produced GPUs - Efficiency research by many phDs. (many AI companies used Deepseek's research though)

Add to that home made inference chips and dirt cheap RAM from CXMT

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Post by wg0 »

That's deliberate. US AI companies have no chance of recouping even fraction of their valuations.

PS: Have not tried this but Deepseev4 Flash (not even Deepseekv4 Pro version) with set to "high" has pretty much Claud Opus 4.7 level of capabilities and is lightening fast and dirty cheap. Hours and hours of conversation barely costs few cents.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by vasco »

prodigycorp wrote: post #27

How realistic is this: Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said. Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well) Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't…

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