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Magnifica Humanitas

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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#382

NUMBERED PARAGRAPHS, YESSSS! Seriously, once page numbers have become optional, electronic editions of books (monographs, essays, and academic texts) need to number the paragraphs so we can keep references working. I’m fed up with referencing the entire text or specific chapters.

I love how excited you are about this and it's rubbing off on me.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sort of rationalization of evil is a core of technocratic support for Trumpism, I find, and has parallels to the evangelical prosperity gospel. Choice tenets: - Fuck you, got mine - If I don’t do it, someone else will - Might makes right - Greed is good It’s always cloaked in a veil of realism, but it’s just the classic 14-year-old-boy-just-got-introduced-to-the-prisoners-dilemma situation. There’s nothing philo…

This was not my point at all. Maybe I could explained better, but main criticism I have is: you can bundle together objectives ( which are inherently good ) and create an utopia. But those cannot always be achievable. Everything in life in trade-offs. Simple example is speed/quality/cost. I can tell easily: - services should be cheap - services should be fast - services should be high quality Now I created an utopia.…

Yeah there were probably more appropriate subthreads to have responded to. My point wasn’t quite neatly directed against yours.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#384

I like how the pope is emerging as a sort of champion of human rights in the face of AI, when the messaging coming from our politicians and corporate overlords is "you're all going to be replaced, make way for the data centers, peons". I stand with the pope.

I stand with the Pope, also. Sadly, the politicians are all bought off by the powerful and rich elite. And the ones who aren't are soon hounded out. What does the "The West" stand for? They (the Elites and the politicians) said human rights etc. But Gaza proved that a lie. Gaza happened in "broad daylight" and the Western leaders did nothing at best, and at worst demonized those who spoke out, as supporters of terror…

I used to believe it was human rights also, and maybe it was, but now the aim seems to be: profit at all and any cost.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#385

> “Disarming AI means freeing it from the mentality of ‘armed’ competition, which today is not limited simply to the military context, but is also an economic and cognitive phenomenon” This is very on-point: capitalism-driven AI development as we have it today will always turn against the common good due to it's singular profit-motive. What a time: the pope having a much clearer picture of the risks & dangers of 'AI'…

I think while it's a very lucid comment, it's still too much reconciliatory for the position that the pope occupies. He should be advocating from a sustainable transition from the current capitalist/consumerist economic doctrine to one more centered on welfare and the care for the other, following his religious doctrine's moral values.

I don’t know that the Papacy has ever been about that though

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#386
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>“technology is never neutral, because it takes on the characteristics of those who devise, finance, regulate, and use it,” If critical decisions affecting human life—such as hiring, lending, crime prediction, and welfare—are processed in an opaque black box, people will lose their fundamental right to explain their context or appeal against the machine's algorithmic verdicts

Substitute technology for religion and he's probably one of the least authorized persons to question this.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#387

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Some Catholic priests might do that, it’s up to the individuals.

Most will and do. Few people become priests, today especially, without a deep-seated faith and desire to spread/support it.

We may have different things in mind.

In all my life of being Catholic (I’ll turn 50 this year), I’ve heard less than 5 homilies-sermons that amounted, in whole or part, to a reflection on a papal encyclical. Over time there may be juicy papal quotes that make it into Sunday preaching, but that’s about it.

Instead, priests tend to focus on the readings for that Sunday’s Mass and more general themes.

That being said, I hope many priests do read an encyclical any time a pope publishes one, but they’re very, very busy most days and weeks, so whether any one priest will commit time to reading a particular encyclical, old and dusty or hot off the presses, will depend on a lot of factors that are as varied as their individual circumstances and personalities.

Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#388

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The Roman Catholic Church has a lot of things wrong with it, now and in the past, but it’s a human institution older than almost any other, and it’s composed of a lot of very intelligent people. Agree or disagree with them, but a papal encyclical is almost always worth reading and understanding.

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Re: Magnifica Humanitas

#390
Yes it's a very dangerous concentration of power. But I don't believe strong words or proposing regulation by just another elite would change much.

Please join/help open source groups doing small + local or distributed models. There's a lot to do. Support truly open source companies.

Let's walk the walk.

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