So what's best low cost coding agent these days? Kimi 2.6? Qwen's latest closed model? Composer 2.5? DeepSeek?
DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
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Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#62I love the focus on cache hit efficiency. Hats off to the deekseek team for creating a great product that maximizes cost efficiency for the user.
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Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#63So what's best low cost coding agent these days? Kimi 2.6? Qwen's latest closed model? Composer 2.5? DeepSeek?
Although I have little interest in agentic coding, when I do use it, I have found Kimi K2.6 to give Opus-quality output, and have switched entirely to it for pretty much everything.
(that is, different places on the Pareto efficiency graph)
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#64Is this improving the cache hit and hence overall efficiency of coding workflows?
Does it also let me host a local llm (deepseek)? What are model min requirements for this?
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opencode has really bad cache stability issues that they seem uninterested in fixing at the moment.
That'd be really easy to spot and also fix, most likely. Any open issue you could point us to, must surely been reported already?
Ah, reminds me of good old "There are only 2 hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-1 errors."
Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#66Isn't caching a server-side thing? How does the agent affect it, significantly at least?
Say you put the current time down to the second in the system prompt, which is the message that goes in front of the entire conversation, then basically nothing will be cached, every agent turn needs to ingest the entire session over and over. Contrast to not doing that, and the backend can leverage caching all the way up to the latest message, as nothing until then changed.
Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#67So what's best low cost coding agent these days? Kimi 2.6? Qwen's latest closed model? Composer 2.5? DeepSeek?
For me, it's by far Deepseek. It's many times cheaper than competitors, and about as good as Sonnet 4.6.
It's bad enough that I'm working on guardrails at the harness level because prompting appears to be useless.
Do you have the same issue?
Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opencode has really bad cache stability issues that they seem uninterested in fixing at the moment.
That'd be really easy to spot and also fix, most likely. Any open issue you could point us to, must surely been reported already?
Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#69Re: DeepSeek reasonix, DeepSeek native coding agent with high caching and low cost
#70Can someone give me a eli5 version of what this is? It really sounds useful to Claude subscribers. Is this improving the cache hit and hence overall efficiency of coding workflows? Does it also let me host a local llm (deepseek)? What are model min requirements for this?