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The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

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Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#81
post #55

Where is this panic? In the US? I don’t hear anything about it (in Europe).

If you haven't already, you will. Expect supermarkets to start offering and marketing animal-based fats more frequently.

I was aware of the panic, but what I learned from this article is that food-makers are actually responding to it by changing their offerings.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#82
post #28

I'd recommend https://myticker.com/ which was shared here some time ago. I followed the advice on this site and actually got very bad news. But the good news would be, that I'm on a strict medication regimen now and maybe I'll live to see my son's graduation. RFK is killing people. it's what he does.

I hope your interventions help, and that you live a long and healthy life.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#84
post #79

> First, “seed oils” is a marketing term, not a nutritional category. "Seed oils" (commonly used cooking oils extracted from plant seeds excluding coconut) are as valid of a construct as "reptiles" (quadrupeds excluding aves and mammals) or "fish" (vertebrates excluding quadrupeds)

Cladisticaly aren't all mammals a type of bony fish?

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#85
post #5

The media and the scientific community are not set up for the situation where cranks with absurdly unscientific views are at the top of the major scientific and health authorities. RFK Jr. still gets too much benefit of the doubt for his initiatives when it is obvious that he is opposed to science and has views about health that are just outright dangerous. And we have the usual problem with this administration that…

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Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#86
post #51
post #29

"eat less ultra-processed food" well, how do you think Canola Oil is made exactly? it's cracked, cooked, pressed, washed in hexane and acid, neutralized with caustic soda, bleached, deodorized on what planet is that not ultra processed? so, i should avoid ultra-processed food, except oils that are ultra-processed? whereas tallow, is...cut from meat i'm not suggesting you should only eat tallow, I'm just saying it's n…

"Ultra-processed" does not mean "many steps in the process of creating it". Although I assume many people are somewhat misusing the term by now, it originally comes from the "Nova" system, where part of the current definition of ultra-processed is: Industrially manufactured food products made up of several ingredients (formulations) including sugar, oils, fats and salt (generally in combination and in higher amounts…

Any isolation of certain compounds from whole food from other compounds would be part of what I refer to as processed. In the case of refined oils, I'd call it ultra processed just because of how much is removed - even before considering the chemical contaminants.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#87

Fish, tree nuts, avocados and olive oil. Avoid butter, red meat and cheese. It’ll save your life.

I’d rather be dead than not eat butter, red meat, and cheese. But yeah don’t cook your vegetables in animal fat, that’s stupid.

I absolutely said that about cheese.

Then something happened I probably should have died from (80-90% of people don't make it). High blood pressure turned out to be a contributing factor. High salt consumption much of it from my favorite cheeses turned out to contribute to the high blood pressure.

I learned to like swiss. And be modest in my consumption of tastier saltier cheeses. I no longer glibly tell people someday I'll be found dead of dairy poisoning with a smile.

I would probably request cheese in a known last meal situation though.

We should all enjoy things, and many of us can still stand to be more restrained in how we enjoy. And what.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#88
post #17

This has a lot of ai-isms, wish they would share the pre-rewrite draft at this point.

If I take my 100%-handwritten prose and hand it to a detector, it tells me it's 30% AI. Those detectors are crap and they're training people to also be crap at it. I'm not changing how I write just to sound "less AI".

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#89
post #17

This has a lot of ai-isms, wish they would share the pre-rewrite draft at this point.

Zero-GPT says it's human written, with a fairly low score of 11.4% for AI. I think I should mention this, as some people seem to try to kill the piece by branding it AI-ism.

Re: The seed oil panic is hurting my cardiac patients

#90

> Back in the hospital, my patients are replacing olive oil with beef tallow This is a weird thing to call out since olive oil isn't a seed oil. Is the point that patients are confused? Does the author (a purported dietitian) not know this himself/herself?

>Does the author (a purported dietician) not know this him/herself? FTA: First, “seed oils” is a marketing term, not a nutritional category. What we’re actually talking about are vegetable oils high in polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats

That may have been the dumbest line in the article, the oils in question, are made out of seeds.
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