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'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by kelnos »

DoctorOetker wrote: post #10

So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…

If I were to leave a key to my house in public, it would still be breaking and entering if someone entered my house without my permission.

Not saying Bambu is in the right here, but your view of how the law works is a bit lacking.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by chime »

syntaxing wrote: post #3

Serious question, I have a Bambulab printer now. What is a good next printer option? Prusa is way too expensive without a decent AMS alternative. Flashforge is doing some sketchy stuff with their maker site + AI. Is Creality or QIDI the best next options?

Depends on your budget but I am extremely happy with Snapmaker U1. I print with ASA, PETG, and TPU. It prints PLA very well by default. It runs klipper, gives you full SSH with root. I installed paxx12's extended firmware using a USB flash drive - https://github.com/paxx12-snapmaker-u1/SnapmakerU1-Extended-... and have been able to get 20+ fps camera feed.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by dns_snek »

hju22_-3 wrote: post #57
the_af wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We Linux desktop people aren't fighting our desktop anymore. Everything just works and it has for some years now. Linux with Steam + Proton is a better gaming platform than MacOS, by the way. The Year of the Linux Desktop arrived a while ago and nobody noticed :)

> Everything just works and it has for some years now. Strange then, that so many people and particularly those who haven't spent years or decades fighting their OS or desktop environment, seem to disagree. Every time a linux user says "everything just works" there's a massive gotcha. Remove the terminal and try to use a linux system, setting everything up, while properly roleplaying those who haven't spent years to…

You can replace "linux" with "windows" in your comment and make the same point.

I've installed Ubuntu and Fedora KDE for less technical relatives and they've used them without issues.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by [deleted] »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #55

[dupe] Discussion on many of the linked articles: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48109224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48175820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48115127 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48115681 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48186583 Etc etc

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Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by chime »

VorpalWay wrote: post #44
GZGavinZhao wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume you're into multi-material printing and want a true multi-extruder setup. Then, quality wise your remaining options are: Prusa, Flashforge, and Snapmaker. Snapmaker very recently just shot themselves in the foot in a similar way that Bambu did, so you're left with Prusa and Flashforge. Of the two remaining, I really only trust Prusa. Yes you pay a lot more, but I guess that's some sense voting with your wall…

Another option would be a Voron kit with INDX or some other tool changer added to it. (Also, what did Snapmaker do? I thought they were relatively innocuous?)

Yeah, I'm curious too because I've been following all 3d printer news lately and only news re: Snapmaker is that they officially hired Ratdoux who came up with the full spectrum printing and they're integrating it into Snapmaker Orca.

Orca really needs a plugin system so that we don't get so many forks. I want full spectrum, wave overhangs, Snapmaker customizations for their printers, Sovol customizations for theirs. I also want the latest Orca nightly. So that's 5 different forks of Orca a good plugin system could replace.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by dns_snek »

kelnos wrote: post #61
DoctorOetker wrote: post #10

So Bambu's argument hinges on "impersonation" claim of Jarczak's modified client using the same user agent string? If a user compiles official BambuStudio from source, does BambuLabs then also claim their non-bit-identical client is also impersonating the "real" BambuStudio? Or are they abusing user agents strings as authentication mechanism? If they don't consider it abuse, but rather legitimate use of agent strings…

If I were to leave a key to my house in public, it would still be breaking and entering if someone entered my house without my permission. Not saying Bambu is in the right here, but your view of how the law works is a bit lacking.

You didn't leave a key somewhere, you distributed the key publicly and gave everyone permission to use it.

Now you're threatening someone for taking and posting a photo of that key.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by VorpalWay »

BozeWolf wrote: post #53
VorpalWay wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, a Prusa will last way longer, and when something breaks it is fully serviceable. All the cheap Chinese brands are at best only partially serviceable. Just the other day I saw a post about a BambuLabs X1C that had to be thrown out because of a pully that was worn out and not replaceable. Snapmaker (also Chinese) seem to be doing things better at the moment, but only time will tell how the serviceability…

Is it worth the upgrade to 3.x? I have the mk3s for years now and I love it. No issues at all. Bought it after I finished my freelance job at Ultimaker, as I had to return my S3. I wanted a premium experience, which prusa sure has. Considering upgrading the 3 or buy a new prusa core something something. Second hand market for prusa printers is decent as well.

Mk3s is indeed great. I tend to swap nozzle often (different sizes, hardened vs brass) and the Nextruder makes that way easier. I also don't have a space where I can print overnight so the additional speed was extremely useful to me.

The Mk3.9 probably isn't a price competitive upgrade though, today I would in your position probably look at selling the Mk3s for 100-200 EUR and buying a Core One instead. But if the Mk3s works for what you are doing, then don't bother. (The Mk3.5 might make some sense if you only want a bit higher speed and network connectivity.)

Personally I don't see myself replacing the Mk3.9s for a long time, though an enclosed printer would be nice and let me print warp-prone materials like PC and ASA.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by IdiotSavage »

cromka wrote: post #30
IdiotSavage wrote: post #27

I have a problem: I'm in the market for a new 3D printer. My old Ultimaker 2 is still going strong, but it's from a different generation and doesn't fit my needs anymore. Looking purely at features, I really want a Bambu Lab X2D. However I hate what that company is doing, don't want to give them my money and don't want to lock myself into their increasingly locked down ecosystem. Features I want: - 2 nozzles (print p…

See if Qidi meets your requirements

They all seem to be single nozzle.

Re: 'Fuck you, Bambu': How one private message could change the face of 3D printing

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Post by jogu »

kiba wrote: post #19
jogu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s wrong with the OCL if you’re a business owner?

I don't want to ask Prusa for permission.

Permission to do what exactly?

Was there something before the OCL you could / were planning to do that the OCL now prohibits?

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