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Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4

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Re: Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4

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Post by trimbo »

mahesh_rm wrote: post #31
trimbo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".

Who [or what] decides whether scarcity is true or false?

The way I've looked at it is "everyone who wants one seems to be able to get one in a reasonable timeframe." Apple is a master of this. You might not get one on day one, but you'll get yours on day five. That's enough time to inspire people to line up to get theirs on day one.

The Wii was the same way. It was "hard to get" for two Christmases. How is that at all possible? A company misjudges their demand that badly for two years in a row? But really what happened was they just kept a decent pace of manufacturing that satisfied all demand just in time. I never heard of anyone not getting their Wii when they wanted it for either Christmas.

And you really need exactly that: stories of people "getting theirs". So the delays should be somewhat minimal, enough that people can show off getting theirs and tell the story in time for the next person to do the same thing. The Best Buy on Main Street gets deliveries on Tuesday. Come back then!

Re: Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4

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Post by joenathan »

prayag wrote: post #50

I adjusted the settings on my Nexus 4 (T-Mobile in the SF Bay Area). I saw a marginal increase in my bandwidth (going from preferred WCDMA to LTE/GSM/CDMA/(PRE) in the menu entries. It is no way a scientific test but the results are a consistent 2 MBps increase which is not enough to claim that LTE works but is a nice to have. I will do more research and post it here.

T-Mobile doesn't offer LTE in the States...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

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Post by kelnos »

prayag wrote: post #50

I adjusted the settings on my Nexus 4 (T-Mobile in the SF Bay Area). I saw a marginal increase in my bandwidth (going from preferred WCDMA to LTE/GSM/CDMA/(PRE) in the menu entries. It is no way a scientific test but the results are a consistent 2 MBps increase which is not enough to claim that LTE works but is a nice to have. I will do more research and post it here.

The real test if it's actually doing anything is to set "LTE only" and see if you still have a connection.

Re: Nexus 4 Includes Support for LTE on Band 4

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Post by chongli »

mahesh_rm wrote: post #31
trimbo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".

Who [or what] decides whether scarcity is true or false?

Until someone comes out with proof that Google is sitting on warehouses full of unsold phones, I'll accept that it is a true scarcity.

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Post by gnu8 »

chaz wrote: post #58
trimbo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I blogged about this yesterday. If that's their plan, it helps to occasionally have them in stock. But they've had none in stock, no preorders, nothing, for 10 days now. In fact, it's only been in stock for 30 minutes ever. False scarcity is a great marketing technique. Ask Apple and Nintendo. Key word is " false ".

I don't think this is a marketing technique. I think Google + LG have genuinely screwed this one up through underestimation of demand, manufacturing/supply problems, or both. There's too much competition in phones right now for them to give up a customer to someone who is interested but needs to wait. Plus, with the holiday season in full swing, retailers are pushing discounts hard, and every day counts. Constrained…

There's no possibly way they screwed it up. Both companies are large enough to have competent production forecasting and supply chain management teams that this must be fully intentional. They decided exactly how many of the phones to make.

That's not to say that the limited number of phones must have been for marketing purposes. The decision could also have been balanced against other manufacturing commitments or other reasons.

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Post by danudey »

nullvoyd wrote: post #2

Glorious news this morning. Enabled it on my Nexus 4 with Telus and I can confirm that this works absolutely fine. However, I'm quite curious about the battery life impact. So far the N4 isn't a champion in this category. Adding LTE..

The Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5 have similar battery life if you disable LTE on the iPhone. The faster you can finish loading your data, the sooner you can turn off the LTE chip and start saving power again.

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Post by taligent »

danudey wrote: post #66
nullvoyd wrote: post #2

Glorious news this morning. Enabled it on my Nexus 4 with Telus and I can confirm that this works absolutely fine. However, I'm quite curious about the battery life impact. So far the N4 isn't a champion in this category. Adding LTE..

The Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5 have similar battery life if you disable LTE on the iPhone. The faster you can finish loading your data, the sooner you can turn off the LTE chip and start saving power again.

Well this is just rubbish.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/2

The iPhone 5 has nearly DOUBLE the battery life of the Nexus 4 for typical usage. If you disable LTE it will be even better.

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Post by cbsmith »

gnu8 wrote: post #65
chaz wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is a marketing technique. I think Google + LG have genuinely screwed this one up through underestimation of demand, manufacturing/supply problems, or both. There's too much competition in phones right now for them to give up a customer to someone who is interested but needs to wait. Plus, with the holiday season in full swing, retailers are pushing discounts hard, and every day counts. Constrained…

There's no possibly way they screwed it up. Both companies are large enough to have competent production forecasting and supply chain management teams that this must be fully intentional. They decided exactly how many of the phones to make. That's not to say that the limited number of phones must have been for marketing purposes. The decision could also have been balanced against other manufacturing commitments or ot…

Keep in mind that LG probably prefers to make their more profitable Optimus G, and that there has been a number of problems in the supply chain effecting the entire market place. Then consider that nobody expected a Google phone that wasn't backed by a carrier to sell that well, and that with the release of iPhone 5, a LOT of capacity in the system was locked up in guarantees (other phone makers had to lock up guarantees because Apple was locking up so much capacity). It wouldn't be hard for Nexus 4 to be in short supply.

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Post by cbsmith »

polshaw wrote: post #44
cbsmith wrote: post #18

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Yeah... you'll want to ignore some of that. http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_li... There really isn't any memory in them. There is value to slow charging, but even more important is temperature and avoiding keeping them near full charge for an extended period of time.

>There is value to slow charging Only to a point. The provided charger tends to be well within this limit (no benefit to using USB).

Agreed. The real trick is to not keep the charge up at full.
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