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Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
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Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you recommend a restaurant to a friend, do you expect that restaurant to offer your friend a free meal to see if they like it?
No, but it they make a monthly subscription to the restaurant, they should get a mean before hand.
Isn't that exactly what the free trial is for? Am I missing something?
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I just don't understand how they can think that not giving me a single free search per month is a good idea. I used Kagi when they still had a free plan and it was fine but I still preferred Google. Now I can't even try it again to see if it has additional value.
Kagi now gives you 50 free searches, at least if you're not signed in.
Signed in? Do you mean, subscribed? I can't seem to use Kagi without loggin in.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
#64I've been using Kagi for a couple of years now. For awhile, my work Chrome profile was still set to use Google for search by default because I don't login to personal accounts on it. I didn't use search that often for programming work - I used ChatGPT or Claude much more often - so it was always incredibly shocking to me how terrible Google search was every time I used it.
The AI results were bad beyond all human understanding - the sort of product that I thought only a walking corpse like Microsoft could release so broadly. But, that is essentially what Google Search is now. Clearly no one in a position of responsibility knows or cares about product design or performance and it only continues to exist through sheer inertia.
Switching to Kagi is how it felt when I first used broadband internet in college , or when I switched from Alta Vista to Google: the internet works like it should.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
#65I just tried it and the search results are terrible. Maybe because Google knows things about me, I guess I can give them the benefit of that doubt.
Clearly inferior to Google though.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
#66> In the Site Search section, click Add and fill in the following:
> Name: Kagi
> Shortcut: k
> URL: `https://kagi.com/search?q=%s`
looks like one can do this and use search without needing to be logged in. pleasantly surprised to see this. i wonder how they would rate limit users this way.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
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Great, Can I host it? A memory injection server side exploit can leak/track/ID any person of interest. This is Signal server way all over again. If I can host it, AND the payments in something like monero for the server that aggregates the queries, we have the foundation of privacy, not perfect as there are a lot of other stuff to go through, but good starting point.
So you think being logged out of Google will keep you more anonymous than this Kagi Privacy Pass setup?
Do I think using a search engine that doesn’t require an account and I can get the queries through an aggregator is more private than another that has an account/token linked back to you? Yes.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
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Not promising it would work, but I would email support and ask to have the trial reset for your account. Companies are usually cool to restart trials if you ask.
I don't need a trial reset, I never used mine yet. I want to compare searches between Kagi and Google every few months to see if it got better. I used to recommend Kagi to people but when it's completely behind a paywall it's not easily recommendable anymore.
You don't even need to verify your email, so just create a throwaway account, it's not that hard.
Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google still lets you do some things without logging in but that doesn’t mean that they don’t build profiles or try to link them with other activity sources. Most of their revenue comes from advertisers paying for targeting.
The paranoia but also the naïveté of internet tracking is a bit of a rare combination I think. Shadow profiles have been a thing for 15 years or more and they have only gotten more sophisticated. Browser fingerprints are surprisingly unique. Unless this guy is rotating machines / vpns / using qubes / etc Google can very likely pinpoint within a degree of certainly which searches are theirs.
It isn’t paranoia when there are clear facts in here, the first fact is your queries are linked to your account, period. Second fact, you don’t control the server in any way or shape. Third, your identity is linked through your payment information, aka full legal details, not just through an IP. Comparing between all that and browsers fingerprinting is muddying the water, you can use searxng in the middle and anonymize the query, with no profiling cookies etc., adding few extra steps and it’s private for most people unless you are a person of interest, in kagi, this doesn’t exist! Even the anonymizer is ran by the same company, so much trust!
I am not paid to design kagi architecture nor I know the internals, but let’s say I can host that mentioned anonymizer myself (say in Canary Islands), and it pulls the queries from kagi who you have paid for by monero, then the company knows nothing about the user, no profiling, no tracking, nothing, that’s a great starting point.
If this doesn’t exist, using something like searxng is far better (privacy wise), not just as mentioned on how it’s more anonymous, but also it gives you the ability to blend in, rather than looking like a sore thumb in the logs.
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Is it open source? Audited? It is like back to how vpn services try to establish some sort of a trust relationship, which imo is more dangerous to have a false sense of trust than none, I prefer no trust at all, zero trust, especially when the service is SaaS in the US.
Man, if only the article I had posted had answered those questions. That sure would be nice https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass https://github.com/kagisearch/privacypass-extension https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43040521 Yes and yes, since you you apparently aren't capable of reading for yourself -edit- I decided I didn't like the tenor of the comments I made. This tone serves nothing but to degrade the qual…
Just curious, with this privacy pass setup, how do I know that the server generated "auth token" is not actually linked to my account somehow?