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Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

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post #16

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Here ya go: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Is it open source? Audited? It is like back to how vpn services try to establish some sort of a trust relationship, which imo is more dangerous to have a false sense of trust than none, I prefer no trust at all, zero trust, especially when the service is SaaS in the US.

It should also work with the Cloudflare privacy pass extension [0] FWIW, since Kagi just implemented RFC 9576 [1]

[0]: https://blog.cloudflare.com/privacy-pass-standard/

[1]: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9576

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

#22
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it open source? Audited? It is like back to how vpn services try to establish some sort of a trust relationship, which imo is more dangerous to have a false sense of trust than none, I prefer no trust at all, zero trust, especially when the service is SaaS in the US.

Man, if only the article I had posted had answered those questions. That sure would be nice https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass https://github.com/kagisearch/privacypass-extension https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43040521 Yes and yes, since you you apparently aren't capable of reading for yourself -edit- I decided I didn't like the tenor of the comments I made. This tone serves nothing but to degrade the qual…

Great, Can I host it? A memory injection server side exploit can leak/track/ID any person of interest. This is Signal server way all over again. If I can host it, AND the payments in something like monero for the server that aggregates the queries, we have the foundation of privacy, not perfect as there are a lot of other stuff to go through, but good starting point.

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

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post #12

Kagi is one of the few services that I will never use, it’s a privacy nightmare. Imagine all your search history are tied to one account, an account that id you with your payment information, and is hosted in the US? Google is better at this point, at least you can use it without an account.

So make a new account every once in a while if you are that paranoid. The whole value proposition of kagi is that it moves you from being the product(eyeballs for ads) to the customer of a product(search results) This flips the incentive of the search provider from abusing you to serving you. Hard to say if it actually will work. But I applaud kagi for trying.

And it is not like you marry kagi and once you sign up you can never use another search engine again.

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

#25
post #12

Kagi is one of the few services that I will never use, it’s a privacy nightmare. Imagine all your search history are tied to one account, an account that id you with your payment information, and is hosted in the US? Google is better at this point, at least you can use it without an account.

They don’t store search history linked to accounts. Logs are only retained for 7-90 days[0].

You can pay anonymously[1]. You can also authenticate anonymously, as someone else already mentioned.

Meanwhile Google retains everything forever and does everything in their power to track everything you do across the web and tie it back to you, logged in or not. This is their entire business model.

[0] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/faq/faq.html#why-trust

[1] https://blog.kagi.com/accepting-paypal-bitcoin

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

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Observation on the author's site: it's cool you can tell their site is designed for them by them, or other people with low vision. big font, high contrast, etc...

It's also nice for everyone. Like, very readable, pleasant, way better than the trendy modern designs.

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

#27
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, if only the article I had posted had answered those questions. That sure would be nice https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass https://github.com/kagisearch/privacypass-extension https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43040521 Yes and yes, since you you apparently aren't capable of reading for yourself -edit- I decided I didn't like the tenor of the comments I made. This tone serves nothing but to degrade the qual…

Great, Can I host it? A memory injection server side exploit can leak/track/ID any person of interest. This is Signal server way all over again. If I can host it, AND the payments in something like monero for the server that aggregates the queries, we have the foundation of privacy, not perfect as there are a lot of other stuff to go through, but good starting point.

So you think being logged out of Google will keep you more anonymous than this Kagi Privacy Pass setup?

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

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I love when people make personal websites (seemingly) purely for themselves. The design of this website really reflects the perspective of the author in a way that was immediately apparent. I've never seen a website with a menu that large.

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

#29
post #15

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You must be joking. Google ties all of your searches to you wether you log in or not.

I’m certainly not joking. Google when it started it wasn’t as evil as now, but the bigger it gets the more evil it becomes, who knows what kagi will turn into if they got as big as google. But again on principle, can you use google search in the library without an account? Yes. Can you use kagi in the library without an account? No. So whenever and whatever you do, your queries are logged and tracked back to you, onl…

Let me get this straight. Your privacy plan is to alternate library computers while searching logged off Google? I'm impressed with your dedication.

Re: Using Kagi Search with Low Vision

#30
post #6

the thing I really miss when I use magic, is recommended places from Google maps, where to watch certain movie/series, a lot of things like that, where you can infer recommendations based on your location. Kagi might be good to filter everything scored "bad", but makes you work more.

We have a big overhaul of Kagi Maps coming, stay tuned :)

How do you feel your data for Kagi Maps compares to Google Maps? It's the kind of thing that's harder to test than switching web searches over to Kagi. I need to already know that the business and transit data is reliable which is why I still go to Google Maps.
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