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Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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I don't want any secretive surveillance, I don't care if you can prove whether its malicious or not.

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If not knowing who somebody is weighs into your consensual model of interactions with them, just wait until you hear about surveillance! :-)

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#112

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I don't want any secretive surveillance, I don't care if you can prove whether its malicious or not.

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ok. explain why we should care about your thoughts as "someone who doesnt know much about these types of things", then?

its a message board. people post their opinions. its how they function.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

The thing is... under the laws as they're written today, if US Gov wants to take a peek at your stuff on FB and friends servers, FB can be barred from informing you that such a request has come in under the National Security Letter (NSL) guidelines.

It's a very complicated thing :/.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#114
post #92

My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

The thing is... under the laws as they're written today, if US Gov wants to take a peek at your stuff on FB and friends servers, FB can be barred from informing you that such a request has come in under the National Security Letter (NSL) guidelines. It's a very complicated thing :/.

Unfortunate but true, I feel we could rise up and stop things like this but most people these days are either unaware or are too busy struggling to do so

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#115

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ok. explain why we should care about your thoughts as "someone who doesnt know much about these types of things", then? its a message board. people post their opinions. its how they function.

You don't have to care, and I'm not really sure why you thought I think that.

And yeah, people post their opinions on message boards. He posted his opinion, and I posted what I thought about it. What's the issue exactly? I'm not saying he shouldn't have posted it or something..

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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post #108
post #92

My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

It's like you never heard of Snowden. You don't need to try to force yourself to believe it not being that bad because it has been worse for like 20 years already.

Your comment doesn't address any of the issues in the comment, and isn't adding to the conversation.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#117

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I don't want any secretive surveillance, I don't care if you can prove whether its malicious or not.

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This isn't reddit man, no need for this kind of reply. They were speaking in-context of the article in this post.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#118
post #54

Reminder if you work for any of these companies (not unlikely on this site) you are actively enabling this. If your first reaction is doubt, deflection, rationalization or discomfort, there are ways out.

Do you feel the same way about the warehouse workers?

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#119

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For people like me who had no idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

That was amazing. I once witnessed a protest like that, in Hannover Germany I think. The idea of 4chan people actually going up the stairs and out of the house into the open air and talking to people, like with molecules and sound waves and all that stuff, it still blows my mind.

They do that all the time. They're not redditors.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#120

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I encourage people imagining this as some high-scale surveillance dragnet to look at the Seattle Shield website and form their opinions https://seattleshield.org/default.aspx?MenuItemID=53&MenuGro...

ah, yes, the little 8-line explanation there by the entity in question absolutely clears them of all suspicion, really. i am sure that information obtained by seattle shield is not shared to anyone outside of seattle borders. police departments and the FBI are not known to share information, after all. police are especially cagey about sharing with other agencies when it comes to counter-terrorism.

I'm just encouraging people to look at the website itself, not actually the particular blurb I linked
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