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Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#101

I don’t understand. This seems like some version of NextDoor / neighborhood watch but for companies and larger interests in the Seattle area that might have their own security apparatus. Why are folks jumping to some conclusions that this is some illuminati threat to democracy? Why is the article so breathless?

It might be a purposefully sensationalist framing in order to increase KPIs. It works because a lot of people have strong opinions things without thinking much.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#102
post #54

Reminder if you work for any of these companies (not unlikely on this site) you are actively enabling this. If your first reaction is doubt, deflection, rationalization or discomfort, there are ways out.

Or perhaps when Amazon facilities security encounters someone doing destructive or harmful things, then sharing that information with other companies in the city is a perfectly reasonable measure? This is functionally no different than sharing your encounters with disruptive people on NextDoor.

> Or perhaps when Amazon facilities security encounters someone doing destructive or harmful things, then sharing that information with other companies in the city is a perfectly reasonable measure?

If only there were a way to address people doing destructive or harmful things.

We could even make it reachable using a telephone, with a very convenient to dial, short, easily remembered number sequence.

I don't know about you, but in my area, NextDoor is mostly "I saw non-white errrrr I mean, uh, 'someone who doesn't look like they belong here' person in my neighborhood" and general witch-hunting any time it's mentioned someone gets arrested for

Also, we have concepts like "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" for a reason. Corporatizing law enforcement is not a good thing.

If Amazon wants to work with the PD they can show up to a community relations meeting like everyone else?

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#103
post #92

My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

I don't want any secretive surveillance, I don't care if you can prove whether its malicious or not.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#104
post #54

Reminder if you work for any of these companies (not unlikely on this site) you are actively enabling this. If your first reaction is doubt, deflection, rationalization or discomfort, there are ways out.

If you work for any company, you're actively enabling injustices against someone , so just make a living and don't worry so much.

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Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#105
post #54

Reminder if you work for any of these companies (not unlikely on this site) you are actively enabling this. If your first reaction is doubt, deflection, rationalization or discomfort, there are ways out.

If you work for any company, you're actively enabling injustices against someone , so just make a living and don't worry so much.

> ...he said, shovelling orphans into the crushing machine

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scientologists being involved with intelligence agencies doesn't surprise me even a bit, it makes a lot of sense as a CIA cutout.

Those weirdos followed me around Ybor near Tampa when I said something negative about them online in public. IT WAS WEIRD! But I gave no Fs

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Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#107
post #59

> All suspicious activity reported must be behavior based. It is important to keep in mind that suspicious behavior, such as taking photographs or videos, is not a criminal act by itself, but may be a precursor to criminal activity. the number of times I've been harassed by police for taking photos... even in small towns in the middle of nowhere people are paranoid.

Unfortunately we have to live in the reality that any unusual thing is a suspicious thing. There’s a whole entire concept that has been popularized around the concept of “see something, say something” and it would be expected that such vague concepts generate paranoia. I am not in a touristy or scenic area so seeing people out taking photos is unusual here and I could see how at least talking to the photographer isn’t a bad idea from a security standpoint.

Might help to mention I’m American so, you know, random joes blowing stuff/people up is part of my reality.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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post #92

My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

It's like you never heard of Snowden.

You don't need to try to force yourself to believe it not being that bad because it has been worse for like 20 years already.

Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

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post #92

My thoughts as someone who doesn't know much about these types of things: 1. Terry Albury calling this list the "Panopticon" could have merit since he's a former FBI agent. However, I'd have to research more into him to figure out how credible he is, and why he is framing it like this. 2. Amazon and Facebook being in the title is most likely clickbait. They're literally only mentioned once in the article and the rest…

I don't want any secretive surveillance, I don't care if you can prove whether its malicious or not.

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Re: Seattle Shield, an intelligence-sharing network operated by the Seattle police

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan validated in their protests against Scientology was not in my bingo card.

For people like me who had no idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology

In a similar but distinct vein: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
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