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All the labs astroturf all the social media, HN is not unique and OpenAI wouldn't be the only ones. I even receive offers sometimes on my email put in my HN profile, asking me to post about their project in exchange for money. Be skeptical of anything you read online, not just what you think is "obvious astroturf".
Wait so you're countering an accusation of astroturfing with an actual confession? That's new.
Google's Antigravity bait and switch
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Nah, maybe one day I do a collective public post of it, for now I just try to get their company and/or name first, then forward it to HN themselves so they can ban them and keep an eye out for them.
Could you give us how many companies are trying to do this and also if any of the companies are YC companies themselves or not, I imagine not but still. and what is the metric for companies sending you messages, like I have never gotten a single message (aside from one/two companies here and there and I even made a HN post about one of the companies) and what do these companies really have a metric for in terms of se…
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They had the lead for maybe a week or two. Now, only Apple is further behind.
I'll give them images. Gemini/Nano Banana is notably better at understanding and generating images than OpenAI, imo, and Claude can't even generate. While I'm at it I've got to give them credit for Gemma as well. Stellar, first class model for the size.
NB still generates better looking images though for the most part - gpt-image series is still affected by the yellow saturation issues though its been heavily mitigated.
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#216Google hasn't handled this well, it is obvious. But I have to say that I never understood the Antigravity IDE. I much prefer using Gemini CLI in combination with vscode. It works like a charm. Now, I'll do the same with Antigravity CLI and vscode. It works fine.
If they offered 3 Flash (or 3.1 Flash Lite too but might be hoping for too much) with comparable usage limits then the transition to Antigravity CLI wouldn't have bothered me much at all.
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Closed source? IntelliJ: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community PyCharm: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/... Android Studio: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/r... Yes, they might offer extended proprietary editions/plugins in addition , but the IDEs themselves are open source.
None of these are the "norm". The IDEs OC mentioned all have a much larger install base.
IDEs made by JetBrains are huge. At this point, they're basically the standard option for several JVM languages.
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#218I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…
Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category things like Sublime were always popular enough.
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#219I'm very surprised, goggle are usually known for their customer focused approach and long standing support of legacy systems!
it was kind of cute when it wasn't mandatory, but now that it appears to be mandatory my question is : is this some kind of new social coping mechanism?
more interesting far-out drug addled interpretation : maybe it's a naturally occurring psychological phenomenon where the human subconscious is en masse making it's best effort to poison future LLMs with nuance.
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Yep. My aspirations about how the internet was going to enable a brighter, better future for people, were instantly transformed, and instead we saw the power of tech corporations acting in their own interests. How naive I was.
Google shutting down Reader did encourage me to learn to host my own services though, which I am pretty thankful for.
Google did nothing to help you , but your response to the dire situation is to be commended.