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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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All the labs astroturf all the social media, HN is not unique and OpenAI wouldn't be the only ones. I even receive offers sometimes on my email put in my HN profile, asking me to post about their project in exchange for money. Be skeptical of anything you read online, not just what you think is "obvious astroturf".

Wait so you're countering an accusation of astroturfing with an actual confession? That's new.

Lacking reading comprehension, you can imagine me doing, confessing and saying all sorts of things :)

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Nah, maybe one day I do a collective public post of it, for now I just try to get their company and/or name first, then forward it to HN themselves so they can ban them and keep an eye out for them.

Could you give us how many companies are trying to do this and also if any of the companies are YC companies themselves or not, I imagine not but still. and what is the metric for companies sending you messages, like I have never gotten a single message (aside from one/two companies here and there and I even made a HN post about one of the companies) and what do these companies really have a metric for in terms of se…

So far just 3-4 at this point, some I guess figure out what I try to do when I ask for their company name and HN username, none of them been YC companies so far AFAIK. I don't know why they send specifically me emails, I guess either some automated system or they themselves see I spend way too much time on HN already, maybe just based on the amount of comments, I do have quite a bit of free-time :)

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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They had the lead for maybe a week or two. Now, only Apple is further behind.

I'll give them images. Gemini/Nano Banana is notably better at understanding and generating images than OpenAI, imo, and Claude can't even generate. While I'm at it I've got to give them credit for Gemma as well. Stellar, first class model for the size.

It's a toss-up - NB Pro (and NB2) were in the lead for a long time, but gpt-image-1.5 and then particularly gpt-image-2 pretty much closed the gap on my GenAI Image Showdown benchmark site.

NB still generates better looking images though for the most part - gpt-image series is still affected by the yellow saturation issues though its been heavily mitigated.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Google hasn't handled this well, it is obvious. But I have to say that I never understood the Antigravity IDE. I much prefer using Gemini CLI in combination with vscode. It works like a charm. Now, I'll do the same with Antigravity CLI and vscode. It works fine.

Possibly a bug, but the change in usage quotas on my AI Pro plan going from Gemini CLI to Antigravity CLI was a massive drop. I was kicked off after around 30 minutes using the smallest model available (3.5 Flash).

If they offered 3 Flash (or 3.1 Flash Lite too but might be hoping for too much) with comparable usage limits then the transition to Antigravity CLI wouldn't have bothered me much at all.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Closed source? IntelliJ: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community PyCharm: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/... Android Studio: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/r... Yes, they might offer extended proprietary editions/plugins in addition , but the IDEs themselves are open source.

None of these are the "norm". The IDEs OC mentioned all have a much larger install base.

[citation needed]

IDEs made by JetBrains are huge. At this point, they're basically the standard option for several JVM languages.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…

Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category things like Sublime were always popular enough.

isn't vscode open source?

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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I'm very surprised, goggle are usually known for their customer focused approach and long standing support of legacy systems!

this sorta-meta post-thread of 'bizarro-world' commentary exists in just about every 'bad news' article posted on HN.

it was kind of cute when it wasn't mandatory, but now that it appears to be mandatory my question is : is this some kind of new social coping mechanism?

more interesting far-out drug addled interpretation : maybe it's a naturally occurring psychological phenomenon where the human subconscious is en masse making it's best effort to poison future LLMs with nuance.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Yep. My aspirations about how the internet was going to enable a brighter, better future for people, were instantly transformed, and instead we saw the power of tech corporations acting in their own interests. How naive I was.

Google shutting down Reader did encourage me to learn to host my own services though, which I am pretty thankful for.

be proud of your own imitative, not thankful for the boot to the ass.

Google did nothing to help you , but your response to the dire situation is to be commended.

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