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Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#101

I am building an Agent IDE called Harness. It is somewhat inspired by the previous version of antigravity (and Conductor, and a few others). But with a core goal being open source & hackability. It's centered around git worktrees. The goal is to organize all your AI sessions into somewhat logical places and make it easy to context switch. The secondary goal is to remove the need to open a separate code editor anytime…

and what is the harness for harness called?

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#102

I am building an Agent IDE called Harness. It is somewhat inspired by the previous version of antigravity (and Conductor, and a few others). But with a core goal being open source & hackability. It's centered around git worktrees. The goal is to organize all your AI sessions into somewhat logical places and make it easy to context switch. The secondary goal is to remove the need to open a separate code editor anytime…

> The goal is to organize all your AI sessions into somewhat logical places and make it easy to context switch.

Isn't this what Pi does (except you have a non-CLI UI)?

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's more that Gemini models are simply not very good for coding compared to the top two. Even with Antigravity I use Claude models.

Gemma 4 31b is better for coding than Gemini in my limited testing on a small C project single source file project, less than 1000 lines. Setting temperature to 0 gives better results for me. It seems like Gemini ignores the system prompt more and the default reasoning output seems more incoherent.

> Gemma 4 31b is better for coding than Gemini

Is there a fine-tuned Gemma coding model? I'd assume that would perform quite well.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#104
The day my coworkers started using cursor I started to learn neovim. Every day that passes I'm more glad I did it.

And mind you, I'm not an anti AI extremist. But I dont think there's any need to adopt the new tool as your new full workbench, a Claude style chat in a nearby terminal has the same benefit and exposes you to a ridiculously smaller personal risk.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#106
It feels like a change in department leadership and management, or an internal power struggle over a lucrative piece of the project (with all the consequences that typically come with it). In the end, it seems more about satisfying personal egos than serving the product, and the end users will be the ones left to “appreciate” the results.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#107
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It's not even good, honestly. I was using it for couple weeks before dropping that 2 months ago. The model was not good and slow, the harness was not good, the IDE was subpar vscode clone. If IDE still important for your Workflow, Trae of Cursor offer much better interface, harness and plan.

Yeah, that was my experience. The model was worse in every way than ChatGPT or Claude or even Composer. I tried it out and used it when my other limits were hit, but only as a last resort. And I stopped doing even that because the model was so bad.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#109

I pay for google "Starter" workspace. Recently I started to get harassed to upgrade. Big button in gmail, large notifications on top of my mail in the mobile app etc. Also two other buttons to get me to turn on AI features I don't need. I already pay a lot, I don't want to pay double just not to be harassed. Having buttons to features that I would have to pay extra for is one thing. But having notifications and large…

And if you upgrade to standard workspace it still tells you account not eligible for antigravity

Idk what google is doing

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google invented transformers. They had LLMs before openAI existed.

Great, tell me again who put the Transformer into LLMs? Also, if we're going backwards, who invented neural networks, does that mean that person also then "had LLMs before OpenAI existed"?

> Great, tell me again who put the Transformer into LLMs?

Google did, as they already said.

OpenAI was better at marketing and a lot more willing to cannibalize the search market as a newcomer. So Google blew their lead in research by not recognizing the product value quickly enough, or failing to win an internal political war on it anyway

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