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Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why local AI is so important

How do you make sure that the model you run locally is not tainted? Is there even a way to confirm this without providing the complete training set?

Fwiw I just run kiwix/zeal locally which has old school search index of all articles in wiki/stackoverflow etc. That seems enough for most of my day to day use.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#102

Does nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?

That will be fun because it's illegal to accept money to promote a product without indication that you have done so. The FTC requires "clear and conspicuous disclosure" for such endorsements.

Seems to work fine for product placement in other media. Apparently "clear and conspicuous disclosure" can be a footnote hidden somewhere in the credits.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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post #12

Does nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?

I won't be able to use their AI results if they are, personally. If I ask the question "what is the best tool for doing x" and I can't trust that the answer is going to be the truth according to all available information, then the AI is useless or worse, misleading. If google is unbiased, and only highlights paid advertiser mentions, no one will pay. I'd only accept this if it was a clear separation of LLM response a…

Then you already can’t use it because it already doesn’t give you a result like that.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#105
post #30

Most ads i see on YouTube are outright scams. Google and Meta are so evil.

Digital scam economy is bigger than illegal drug industry and these (legal) companies are the kingpins. Better be mad at some immigrants than at companies allowing your grandma to be scammed.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

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post #15

> We’re introducing more helpful ads in AI Mode I always chuckle when ad companies say that. I have never seen a helpful ad in google search, but well I have been using adblockers forever so I would not know.I am honestly curious though, for those who don't use adblockers - what percentage of ads that you see are actually helpful?

Since when have we considered ads something helpful? Their purpose isn’t to be helpful. They're there to sell you something, and nothing more. Any semblance of helpfulness is misinterpretation and merely coincidental.

Since when were we the customer?

They are helpful to the people who buy the ads, not those of us who have them injected into our experiences.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#107

The only reason Google is pushing this AI crap is so that they can shove ads right into people's throats without them being able to use ad blockers (it's easy to block a web script but virtually impossible to block the text itself), effectively doubling their profits overnight.

Block the AI overviews with extensions like https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hide-google-ai-over... or use a userscript to do the same.

You can block the entire AI response, but not the paid-for product placement in the response separately.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#108
post #15

> We’re introducing more helpful ads in AI Mode I always chuckle when ad companies say that. I have never seen a helpful ad in google search, but well I have been using adblockers forever so I would not know.I am honestly curious though, for those who don't use adblockers - what percentage of ads that you see are actually helpful?

Since when have we considered ads something helpful? Their purpose isn’t to be helpful. They're there to sell you something, and nothing more. Any semblance of helpfulness is misinterpretation and merely coincidental.

The people who are buying ad spots and creating ads absolutely believe they're helpful, not just to you, but to their client. Their purpose is to helpful, to the company, who wants your money and who gives the marketer their money, and with this action, the marketer will believe whatever is needed to do their job, as always.

Re: We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot

#110

Does nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?

it’s fair to be skeptical. But then again we already know that this wasn’t the case with search results. So not sure why we would assume it is this time around.
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