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Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#41

Every time I try use Vivaldi I encounter how incredibly slow the UI is. Are all Vivaldi users running it on specced out desktops? Or is it just ao lineux UI latency issue?

Same, even on the absolute highest end machines. It has been a few versions since I've given it a go and I otherwise like it but the perf decline over stock Chromium, sometimes randomly appearing, is what has always steered me away again in the past.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#42

still as bloated as ever? can't we just have tabs + tiling (either tiles in tabs, or tabs in tiles, both can work), and call it a day? that's all I need from browsing today

> still as bloated as ever?

That's their thing. Though a lot can be disabled.

> can't we just have tabs + tiling

Maybe Min or Zen Browser is more your thing?

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#43

With Firefox, especially with Firefox on Linux, which always had and still has poor GPU support, I frequently encounter sites that do not work well or they do not work at all. So I must keep a backup browser, which is normally Vivaldi, because typically any site that works in Chrome also works in Vivaldi. Moreover, Vivaldi has a great advantage over both Firefox and Chrome, in it the command to print a Web page usual…

> mouse gestures Vivaldi is made by people who left Opera after it was bought by a Chinese company, and the mouse gestures are similar. Ny favorites: "Hold right mouse button, click left" is the browser back gesture, and "hold left, click right" is forward.

I switched to Firefox when Opera ditched Presto and mouse gestures were the thing I missed the most (along with windowed tabs). Took me a long time to stop trying to use them, those commands were etched deep in my muscle memory. I remember trying a few extensions but they never managed to replicate how smoothly it worked in Opera.

You can tell the Vivaldi devs care about that kind of stuff. I don't want to use a chromium-based browser as my daily driver, but I like a lot of what they're doing.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#44
post #3

Vivaldi is all about customization but then they categorically refuse to add extension support to their android browser. Imo extension is the ultimate way to customize your browser experience. It's not technical difficulties, there are open source projects that have such support. I also don't believe it's against any TOS because some of these browser are available in the Google play store. I just don't get why they r…

Because of stuff like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48207660 If you don't have the ability to police extensions you're basically putting your users up for sale?

They can add support for Chrome and Edge extensions marketplaces.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#45
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If version 8.0 makes you raise your eyebrows, just wait til you see what version Firefox and Chrome are on!

Which is even more nuts, especially with the features removed from Firefox sometimes like the grouped tabs removal then regain.

Some want major version numbers to mean "giant changes" and others want version numbers to mean "not just a security patch". Others want something between.

None of these approaches is any more correct than the other and theres zero chance of getting everyone to agree only one should be used. You just have to understand which delivery approach is being taken to consume it accordingly.

E.g. 1.4.8, 14.8, and 148 all tell their own story. 1.4.8 implies many small releases with a few decent size changes along the way. 14.8 implies a medium speed (perhaps ~yearly) regular delivery if bigger enhancements with minor patches/fixes in between. 148 implies a long running continuous rapid delivery of all things as they become available.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#46
post #6

Vivaldi is the browser, where I always wonder why it doesn't get mentioned in all the privacy enhanced browsers. It's the only browser for me, that reliably filters out all ads with ublock origin while working on all websites without any problems. Also the company behind Vivaldi is not in USA/China/Russia, which also helps from my point of view.

Because it's a proprietary closed source fork of Google Chromium. There's nothing to trust. If it's free and closed source, you are the product.

> you are the product

Then we need to have a discussion about that because in case of Vivaldi you are in fact not the product.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#47
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Im not sure I understand their business model. I don’t see any paid offering on their website

Search engine deals are HUGE for browsers. They're e.g. what has funded Mozilla with many billions over the last 20 years. Mozilla has tried to diversify but everything else has pales in comparison (and the donations are basically a joke). It scales up with usage as well. Not that Safari needed funding, but Google pays Apple upwards of $20,000,000,000 per year for the privilege of being the default for that user base…

A lot of people might think $20B is a lot to pay. But search (and “other”) account for over half (>$200B) the of Alphabet’s total revenue from all sources. It’s still a bargain when you consider how few people bother to (or are even aware of the possibility of) changing their default browser.

https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/googl/metrics/revenue-by-se...

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#48
Been using Opera since the early 00s and followed the dev team to the new company Vivaldi. Using any other browser always feels like a massive downgrade to me. I'm grateful for this software. Made by people with a vision that doesn't suck completely.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#49

With Firefox, especially with Firefox on Linux, which always had and still has poor GPU support, I frequently encounter sites that do not work well or they do not work at all. So I must keep a backup browser, which is normally Vivaldi, because typically any site that works in Chrome also works in Vivaldi. Moreover, Vivaldi has a great advantage over both Firefox and Chrome, in it the command to print a Web page usual…

Vivaldi is the only Chromium browser that actually breaks sites that work on Chromium(based) browsers itself. Mostly stuff like government ID login. A few European logins don't work, and haven't for years (!) with Vivaldi not giving a crap despite ample reports. Extra ironic since Vivaldi is touted as an EU alternative to US tech.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#50

Every time I try use Vivaldi I encounter how incredibly slow the UI is. Are all Vivaldi users running it on specced out desktops? Or is it just ao lineux UI latency issue?

I'd guess it's the price for custom UI and customization features they're adding
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