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Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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post #3

Vivaldi is all about customization but then they categorically refuse to add extension support to their android browser. Imo extension is the ultimate way to customize your browser experience. It's not technical difficulties, there are open source projects that have such support. I also don't believe it's against any TOS because some of these browser are available in the Google play store. I just don't get why they r…

Because of stuff like this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48207660 If you don't have the ability to police extensions you're basically putting your users up for sale?

No, if that were true, there would be no extension support on non-mobile

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#12

I'd like to try Vivaldi, but the combination of being (partially) closed-source [1] and free-as-in-beer makes me feel like I must be the product. Do they do any sort of third-party auditing of the closed parts? [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

Im not sure I understand their business model. I don’t see any paid offering on their website

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#13
post #6

Vivaldi is the browser, where I always wonder why it doesn't get mentioned in all the privacy enhanced browsers. It's the only browser for me, that reliably filters out all ads with ublock origin while working on all websites without any problems. Also the company behind Vivaldi is not in USA/China/Russia, which also helps from my point of view.

Because it's a proprietary closed source fork of Google Chromium. There's nothing to trust. If it's free and closed source, you are the product.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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post #12

I'd like to try Vivaldi, but the combination of being (partially) closed-source [1] and free-as-in-beer makes me feel like I must be the product. Do they do any sort of third-party auditing of the closed parts? [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

Im not sure I understand their business model. I don’t see any paid offering on their website

Search engine deals are HUGE for browsers. They're e.g. what has funded Mozilla with many billions over the last 20 years. Mozilla has tried to diversify but everything else has pales in comparison (and the donations are basically a joke).

It scales up with usage as well. Not that Safari needed funding, but Google pays Apple upwards of $20,000,000,000 per year for the privilege of being the default for that user base.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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post #12

I'd like to try Vivaldi, but the combination of being (partially) closed-source [1] and free-as-in-beer makes me feel like I must be the product. Do they do any sort of third-party auditing of the closed parts? [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

Im not sure I understand their business model. I don’t see any paid offering on their website

Took 2 seconds to startpage* this: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

*screw Google and their AI search

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#16
It's a lovely browser, and a lot of work has clearly been put into it. I should like it, because I used Opera for ages (in the Presto era), but it's just a little to busy for me.

There's way to much stuff, to many feature and when the rendering engine is just Blink, I don't really see much of a reason to use it over Firefox.

Nice work though and wonderful to see a 3rd party browser maker giving it a go.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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post #12

I'd like to try Vivaldi, but the combination of being (partially) closed-source [1] and free-as-in-beer makes me feel like I must be the product. Do they do any sort of third-party auditing of the closed parts? [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

Im not sure I understand their business model. I don’t see any paid offering on their website

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Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#18
Two questions, how can you trust closed source? And how are they already on release 8.0; what are these significant improvement each time or is it like apple's yearly release?

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

#19
With Firefox, especially with Firefox on Linux, which always had and still has poor GPU support, I frequently encounter sites that do not work well or they do not work at all. So I must keep a backup browser, which is normally Vivaldi, because typically any site that works in Chrome also works in Vivaldi.

Moreover, Vivaldi has a great advantage over both Firefox and Chrome, in it the command to print a Web page usually works fine, while in both Firefox and Chrome it almost never works correctly.

Both Firefox and Chrome are almost never able to render correctly a "printed" page, even if they render the same page perfectly on screen. In the printed page, the graphic elements have almost always wrong sizes, which results in overlapped or invisible page elements. I suppose that this is caused by the fact that many Web pages stupidly use element sizes in pixels, instead of using length units, e.g. points or inches or mm, and both Firefox and Chrome might scale pixels wrongly when rendering for resolutions that differ from that of the screen, while Vivaldi scales them correctly.

Besides the "Print" command, the second feature that I like in Vivaldi better than in Firefox or Chrome is that it accepts mouse gestures for most commands, as alternatives to keyboard shortcuts, so you do not need to move the hand from the mouse while browsing.

Re: Vivaldi 8.0

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I'd like to try Vivaldi, but the combination of being (partially) closed-source [1] and free-as-in-beer makes me feel like I must be the product. Do they do any sort of third-party auditing of the closed parts? [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser...

source code is apparently* available to audit: https://vivaldi.com/source

* on my phone, can’t inspect the tars

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