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Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Post by khriss »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #195
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As society's repositories of knowledge, I feel like AI should fall under libraries. Especially considering how AI utilizes others knowledge/text they don't legally have rights to. The carveout we made slightly similar (in that they have special rules for their use) is for libraries.

An 8-bay Synology costs about $1000. It'll hold an eighth of a petabyte pretty comfortably (with sufficient redundancy). It's bizarre and disturbing to me how few of you seem to be interested in having your own libraries, even though technology has finally delivered that ability to you. You'll come on here once every 3 months and whine about how we have to do more for public libraries, even though they seem to largel…

> even though they seem to largely be little more than daytime homeless shelters and free internet for perverts

And, of course you know this to be objectively true and hence can produce a valid source for your claim?

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Post by d-cc »

random3 wrote: post #90
rvnx wrote: post #84

Why LLM companies that depended on Anna's archive end up so clean ? Looks like Anna's archive was doing the dirty work, and the LLM companies were reaping the profits (and ironically still do, as they hold the largest databases of pirated content in the world). Is it because the law doesn't apply to you when you have 1B USD ?

While that may be the case it’s hard to make this claim when: - Anthropic settled a similar case - Anna didn’t show up in court

The legal system is a joke which received the amount of engagement it deserves.

As well as their domestic and national security apperatus, actually. Their own citizens are being used to propagate brain-computer interfaces amongst their own people.

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Post by d-cc »

gruez wrote: post #47
thelastgallon wrote: post #38

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Yes, perfectly okay for large companies for billionaires. As long its structured as a corporation, with the super wealthy as the majority owners, have the connections to get federal laws passed to grant monopolies and enable congress insider trading, everything is okay! Some examples, there are probably hundreds more: 1) Its okay for pharma companies to provide addictive drugs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackler_f…

>1) Its okay for pharma companies to provide addictive drugs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackler_family Yes, with FDA approval. You can dispute whether the approval should be granted in the first place, but that's not at all comparable to some drug dealer slinging fentanyl on some street corner. Not to mention this happened decades ago, before the current wave of corruption in the whitehouse. Finally, isn't the wh…

>before the current wave of corruption in the whitehouse.

Nice username, GRUez.

>Again, with the proper licenses. Believe it or not, you too can buy methamphetamine legally if you have a prescription! It even has a snazzy brand name, desoxyn.

What a headache. Too bad it's not provided in a formulation suitable for vaporization. Big pharma needs to get on this immediately.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Post by d-cc »

dmos62 wrote: post #76
dewey wrote: post #20

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This is nothing new. Remember when the US pressured Sweden into taking down the pirate bay (Very unsuccessfully)? Using global influence to get countries to do something that they would not do on their own has always been the case.

Let's not forget the Julian Assange extradition fiasco.

Or the murder of John McAfee, or Alaxendar Cazes

Very strange how people under indictment by the United States of America keep dying in custody.

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Post by antinomicus »

d-cc wrote: post #204
dmos62 wrote: post #76

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Let's not forget the Julian Assange extradition fiasco.

Or the murder of John McAfee, or Alaxendar Cazes Very strange how people under indictment by the United States of America keep dying in custody.

You really think he got murdered?

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Post by d-cc »

antinomicus wrote: post #206
d-cc wrote: post #204

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Or the murder of John McAfee, or Alaxendar Cazes Very strange how people under indictment by the United States of America keep dying in custody.

You really think he got murdered?

To those in the know, it's not really uncommon knowledge.

Whenever you have control over somebody else's organism, suicide isn't something which makes sense definitionally, even if his own body was used to kill him.

You're welcome to look into what those around him said regarding his detention and death.

He is just a well-publicized example.

Many of you here have probably used darknet markets, if so, your vendors are likely neurocompromised as well.

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Post by bombcar »

mmooss wrote: post #163
mgr86 wrote: post #125

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I work at a nonprofit and the board is largely university librarians. I am asking all of them how have the behavior of their patrons changed in the last five years. How has usage of their subscribed resources changed in the age of AI. They don't share much, but their facial expressions and silence share more than they mean them to. Some universities have cut staff, or reclassified them so that they won't receive bene…

> They don't share much Why not?

Most libraries are currently operating under "the donors don't know how they're being used" if you get the drift - checkouts of actual books are way, way down, the vast majority of checkouts are videos, etc; many library users are just using the computers or using it as a study/work/play area.

This may or may not apply to university libraries, but many of the public libraries around here are morphing into indoor playgrounds.

Re: Anna's Archive hit with $19.5M default judgment and global domain takedown order

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Post by bombcar »

ndiddy wrote: post #161
blairbeckwith wrote: post #138

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Is there really a meaningful distinction between how libraries treat digital book licenses and physical books when you actually hit reality? My knowledge of how libraries work is very shallow, but I've always understood that they treat physical books as essentially consumable and have fairly high standards for what a "lendable" copy of a book is. A purely assumptive example, but if a library pays for a 2 year license…

I think the practical difference is that the rates that publishers charge libraries for ebooks are significantly higher than what either consumers pay for the ebook or what a physical book costs. See https://archive.is/Ha3VQ for one example: > To illustrate the economics of e-book lending, the N.Y.P.L. sent me its January, 2021, figures for “A Promised Land,” the memoir by Barack Obama that had been published a few m…

One complication with e-books and e-audiobooks (as opposed to on CD) is that since you do NOT have to go in to "get" the book there's really no penalty for putting yourself on the waiting list, and it's long, and I've "checked out" more than one e-book that I never read (it had to be "returned" before I could begin).
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