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College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by gos9 »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #75
jerf wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

College students had 4+ years to learn about the real issues before the graduation ceremory, and the rest of their lives after it. Rubbing every problem in the world in their face at a graduation ceremony is just gauche . To everything a time and a season. Not every second has to dedicated to "problems".

"Not every second has to dedicated to "problems"." I was a lot quicker to agree with this sentiment in prior decades where we had notionally fewer of them, the big ones seemed better understood, and the folks managing the levers of power at least managed the appearance of competence.

Mate just because you spend more time staring at a screen wringing your hands doesn’t mean there’s notionally more problems

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by gos9 »

smallmancontrov wrote: post #74
forgetfreeman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first step in resolving any problem is acknowledging that it exists. Ignoring real issues in favor of comfortable narratives is insane.

The "boos" are an indication that kids finally understand who to blame. In a dark time, that's a ray of hope: the kids are alright.

And they’re not going to do anything about it, just boo on command and go to work

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by arjie »

All right, I read the Eric Schmidt speech and it's fine https://xcancel.com/Jason/status/2056413992369676293?s=20

It's not "out of touch" or rubbing everyone's noses in it or any of the other nonsense that people are talking about. It's got a pretty clear thesis: this is a revolutionary technology of a kind that many of us thought impossible even within this last decade; and it hasn't been fully defined what its use and shape will be for humanity; and then there's a note of optimism in it.

As far as I can tell this is a pretty decent commencement speech. It's not "disconnected from reality" or "living in a bubble" or "spiteful" or any of these other phrases that people are using.

A commencement speech has to address the elephant in the room: this present revolution. It has to exhort the students on to something: which this aims to do. And it has to present challenges in order to do so: this does that as well.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by rolph »

jerf wrote: post #73
forgetfreeman wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first step in resolving any problem is acknowledging that it exists. Ignoring real issues in favor of comfortable narratives is insane.

College students had 4+ years to learn about the real issues before the graduation ceremory, and the rest of their lives after it. Rubbing every problem in the world in their face at a graduation ceremony is just gauche . To everything a time and a season. Not every second has to dedicated to "problems".

collage students had 4+ years to be gaslit, and redirected from what they were indepedently discovering, toward subservience.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by boelboel »

ryeights wrote: post #213
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #93

Meanwhile they're doing all their homework and tests with AI

Not necessarily contradictory. If all your peers are using AI, you might feel you have to use it too to avoid falling behind… especially with curved grade thresholds

Why put in the effort if a potential employer can't tell.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by billbrown »

There was an effort to disinvite him as soon as it was announced that he was the speaker.[1] And then when that failed, activists passed out flyers encouraging students to boo Schmidt during his speech.[2] This all took place before he set foot on campus because of alleged sexual harassment.

This wasn't about what everyone wants it to be about.

[1] https://tucson.com/news/local/education/college/article_078e...

[2] https://tucson.com/news/local/education/college/article_ab7e...

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by Kapura »

512akHaf wrote: post #225
Kapura wrote: post #88

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nah, he's gonna be in the line of head spikes

He keeps his Gulfstream fueled and ready to go to Cyprus, where he bought a passport. In Cyprus there is an international "elite" of Western and Russian oligarchs.

i want them to do the atlas shrugged thing so bad. it would end so funny.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by madnewgrad26 »

ath3nd wrote: post #182
InsideOutSanta wrote: post #177

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I bet "deal with it" is exactly the kind of inspiring message these kids were hoping to hear.

They will deal with it alright. It's only so many speeches like this before the boos turn into other things.

Absolutely. They have no idea the vitriol my classmates have for them. I really am worried, lot of friends are very casual about their extremism. When anger and disgust is the feeling of the majority: it’s only a matter of time…

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by watwut »

threethirtytwo wrote: post #223
hermannj314 wrote: post #31

"After my speech for the troops about how we are losing in Iran, my speech to children with cancer about how we've gutted research, sure I can then give a speech to people entering the job market about how AI is ruining the job market" Perfect, that's exactly the message of despair we want to send! (How I imagine picking these speakers goes at every college campus)

what do people need to hear? inspiration or truth? Personally I want the cold awful truth. But I think humanity in general thrives on inspiration and delusion.

What people need and should hear depends on the situation. When you visit a dentist, you don't need to hear about how to properly build a house, no matter how truthful it is. You should hear truth about state of your teeth. Or, if you are having a wedding speech, you should not pontificate about how to keep the bathroom clean - even if what you say is cold hard truth.

Second and importantly, it is not like these commencement speakers would be concerned with truth or were trying to convey truth in their speeches. The dilemma here is not "truth versus inspiration/delusion". Schmidt was not selling truth, he was selling his product and was trying to make people believe things that will make him earn more. Schmidt want trying to sell inspiring vision of the world for the students, he effectively put them into a passive-you-dont-matter role in his vision.

Re: College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by mghackerlady »

MSFT_Edging wrote: post #283
mghackerlady wrote: post #238

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God I love that video (sketch? I forgot where it came from but I originally saw it on youtube)

It's a skit from the show "I think you should leave". Generally absurdist skit comedy.

I thought that might be where it was from, but I hadn't seen it and its been so long since I've seen the skit that I forgot where it came from. Thanks :)
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