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College students drown out AI-praising commencement speeches with boos

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Post by treis »

morserer wrote: post #251
dylan604 wrote: post #100

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Trying to wrap my head around how one can still be around someone in 2023 after what happened in 2021. This confusion no way justifies what happened nor am I blaming anyone. I just don't understand it.

From the little that I know: Every abuser in my personal life whom I've learned about--most of whom I'd also met and spent time with before learning of their deeds--are extremely charismatic people who make active efforts to both isolate their partner from their social circle as well as do things externally that increase their reputation amongst both their peers and the peers of their partner. The people who batter,…

There is an equally impressive ability of abusers to rewrite history to put themselves in the role of the victim. That comes along with justifying all sorts of behavior. The classic "if you didn't make me so angry I wouldn't hit you" is logic that adds up to them.

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Post by furyofantares »

romaniv wrote: post #106

GenAI is the first technology that I've ever seen that is actively rejected by young adults and fervently pushed by people over 55. It seems Eric Schmids of the world think they (in their 70s) have more say about the future of these students than the students themselves. That is very unlikely.

Folks of retirement age or nearing it are largely free to either play with it or not depending on their interest. This segment may present as largely positive if those without interest get to just opt out.

For folks in the middle of their career or earlier, or just starting out, it's more of a labor vs capital thing where capital doesn't care if skills that have been invested in are devalued, and raises expectations where skills are amplified. This segment will likely present as largely negative.

Younger still, high school and earlier, probably fairly free again to play with it or not depending on interest, but subject to temptation to use it to cheat, and subject to teacher influence not to.

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

mghackerlady wrote: post #238
MSFT_Edging wrote: post #22

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Tim Robinson in the hotdog costume loudly exclaiming "we're all trying to find the guy who did this"

God I love that video (sketch? I forgot where it came from but I originally saw it on youtube)

It's a skit from the show "I think you should leave". Generally absurdist skit comedy.

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Post by infamouscow »

QuercusMax wrote: post #186
lenerdenator wrote: post #140

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Follow the money. People over 55 are most concerned about one thing: retirement. Retirement, by definition, requires living off of money that you did not labor for. In the US, you do this by holding assets that yield returns on your investment. Over the last half-century, we've made returning that yield the main objective of publicly-traded corporations to the complete exclusion of everything else. People like Schmid…

Since when does retirement mean living off money you didn't labor for? The whole point is the opposite - you can only retire if you have enough resources/income (pension, 401K, gold bars, etc) that you can support yourself without working. In the US we have a problem that a lot of seniors can't afford to retire.

> In the US we have a problem that a lot of seniors can't afford to retire.

Gen Z and majority of millennials are completely unsympathetic to this problem.

From their perspective, older generations have actively hindered their careers and financial opportunities to the point where they know they'll have to work their entire lives. They also know the US is marching towards financial calamity when Medicare becomes insolvent in the early 2030s, and don't anticipate Medicare or Social Security to exist when they're older.

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

steelkilt wrote: post #119

If I were an adversary of the U.S. I would encourage anti-AI sentiment among young people, to my strategic advantage.

That assumes that there is benefit to be had in all this AI craze. So far, none has yet materialized.

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Post by smallmancontrov »

noobermin wrote: post #256
ryandrake wrote: post #189

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None of these people even had to mention AI in their speeches. They could have just done the normal, generic "Dream big, believe in yourself, attaboy" kind of speech and then gone back to their 3rd homes in Malibu. But no, they just had to both mention it AND rub everyone's noses in it. They know they've already won, and are arrogantly making sure the next generation doesn't forget who's meant to be on the lower rung…

It's tempting to assume malice, I don't doubt some of them really are so spiteful, but I assume most are just that out of touch.

They aren't out of touch when it comes to the prospect of cutting jobs and how it will pump their stock portfolios. They are drooling so hard the big risk is that they make the axe handle slick and throw the axe instead of slicing the job prospects of those in the audience.

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Post by tavavex »

JoshTko wrote: post #260
noobermin wrote: post #256

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It's tempting to assume malice, I don't doubt some of them really are so spiteful, but I assume most are just that out of touch.

It's ironic that these speakers tout AI benefits but failed to use it to learn what college students are concerned about

Why would they? It's so trivial to do it yourself, it's easy to imagine what they're concerned about. Things like the optimal number of agents to deploy in their swarm, the best way to use AI to route yacht and private jet movements between your residences, what kind of AI business to start after graduation and how many billions to invest in it.

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Post by cratermoon »

jakeydus wrote: post #264
gowld wrote: post #215

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Mine was "The world sucks. We need brilliant people like you to save it. Please help."

That was the gist of mine as well. "There are too many problems and too few people who care. So please care, and don't let the size of the problems keep you from caring."

“And don’t get distracted by money, fame, and power like I did.”

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Post by CPLX »

tavavex wrote: post #280
mbfg wrote: post #262

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you could have stopped with AI makes them rich. Why cares about anyone else.

But it's not that simple. The point I'm making is that their reaction to making money also feels very inhuman. Suppose your comapny just won a key contract, putting your competitors out of business. Would you go to stand on a stage in front of the other business, gleefully talking about how your victory will upset the industry? How it's a sign of the changing times, but a blessing in disguise because those employees…

Yeah, they're fucking sociopaths. We have enough history at this point. The results are in. The verdict is clear.
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