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Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by chrisweekly »

ramses0 wrote: post #118
chrisweekly wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple store's current options for mac studio seem to max out at 96GB. I'm questioning ROI, esp. given it's not upgradeable. Curious about others' takes on new mac hardware.

I'd held off from buying a new personal laptop for quite a few years and felt that the M5-128gb was justifiable once I started really seeing payoffs from using AI at work. Running w/ Cursor and doing some "nights and weekends" type coding / conversations, I was hitting $100-200 of usage within a few weeks. I know there's probably better ways to manage costs, but I was getting enough value out of it to keep bumping my…

Thank you! That was a generous and helpful response, I really appreciate it. Food for thought...

>"...if you're strategic about your usage, the ability to "talk for free" and occasionally "burst" to an online provider or having some hugging-face tokens to try out different models that you can't quite run locally is really nice. Talking to the AI (locally) to even just do non-coding planning without worrying about data leakage or privacy issues is phenomenal, and you end up owning a really nice laptop!"

^ this resonates, loudly.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by cft »

Downloading this and cancelling Google Antigravity Pro at the same time:

I had a Google Pro account that I inherited from buying a Pixel 9 XL - it's free for a year after a flagship Pixel phone purchase. After a year they started charging for it, and i tolerated it, because Flash was usable in Antigravity for dumb auxiliary tasks that I did not want to waste GPT/Opus on. It had a separate generous quota from Gemini 3.1 Pro. Now with Flash 3.5 they combined the quotas with Pro, such that on a Google pro account you can work 4-5 hours per week in Flash. And by the way, 3.1 Pro is useless for programming, compared to Codex/Opus

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by ecshafer »

briga wrote: post #109

I was getting dangerously close to my weekly Claude Code limit last night so I had Claude set up Qwen3.6 with llama.cpp and OpenCode. Honestly it's a great (free!) alternative to Claude Code--certainly more than good enough for a lot of smaller less complex tasks. I'm excited to try this new version. The fact that open-source models are so close to the frontier is very impressive.

Qwen3.6 with claude code works great. I get a lot better results with that than opencode and qwen3.6. Claude Code is a great harness, and good harness/tool integration makes a big difference. You just have a settings.json with your ollama setup and the qwen model and you can use it.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by atilimcetin »

flakiness wrote: post #124

I'm using pi agent and love to try qwen models (hosted). What are the good options? The official provider doesn't include Alibaba. Is OpenRouter etc. fast enough? (As a reference, DeepSeek v4 is severely throttled on these proxy services.)

I use pi + openrouter (with qwen3.6-max-preview) a lot. I never hit any stability or performance problems yet.

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Post by culi »

vessenes wrote: post #70
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more interested in hearing specific reasons why one wouldn't use a Chinese company. Unless you're thinking Alibaba is going to ship chat logs to some government ministry that will then dole out proprietary information to new competitors (which doesn't seem logistically feasible), or you run a human rights organization, it feels a bit like FUD.

All this data is accessible to national security agencies; this is true in every country in the world. China has more integration between intelligence and industry than many western countries, and it does present a higher risk of unwanted “tech transfer” to industry than running on oracle or Google or ms or Amazon does in the US. DHS has long staffed full time agents in California to deal with foreign IP exfiltration…

I highly doubt China has a more sophisticated integration of their intelligence ministries than the USA. The world in which that was true would look very different from our own.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by throwa356262 »

simple10 wrote: post #127
barbacoa wrote: post #121

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Try looking into Ryzen AI Max 395. AMD made a CPU/GPU soc with unified memory specifically for ai inference. Can buy mini PCs with up to 128gb ram.

The Ryzen AI Max 395 128gb is super cool, but not fast for inference. Order of magnitude slower than dedicated GPU but at half the cost. You can run larger models on it but it's slow. Great for local async work. Not great for daily chat or code agent driver.

The latest NPUs are pretty fast, I think what is missing is more optimised software support.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by joshjob42 »

I really like what Qwen are doing, and a lot of these Chinese labs, but until I can ask their models what happened during the student protests in 1989 or why human rights groups are upset about the Uighurs and the model gives me a straight answer I'm just not able to trust these models with anything of substance.
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