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Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by barbacoa »

throwaw12 wrote: post #21
ttoinou wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

M5 Max 64GB (sweet spot) or 128GB (only 1000 USD, better to keep it for the future) more are the best quality price ratio, future proof, reliable, resellable and flexible workloads. Harder to use as a server might be the only drawback

What do you recommend for non-Mac setup? I am a Mac user, but its getting expensive, and not seeing reason to jump to the latest M5

Try looking into Ryzen AI Max 395. AMD made a CPU/GPU soc with unified memory specifically for ai inference. Can buy mini PCs with up to 128gb ram.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by embedding-shape »

SR2Z wrote: post #93
gmerc wrote: post #76

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Its very hard to be so naive.

I think you are being ridiculous. Tampering with an LLMs pretraining is a difficult undertaking. There is plenty of evidence that training a model to walk the party line leaves it less capable than if it weren't. It's not very subtle manipulation either; ask qwen of Taiwan is a part of China in German and in English and only the English answer will be party-approved.

Compared to what we have proof the US government have engaged in before? Do people not remember PRISM anymore? It was virtually impossible to think of the scope before it was leaked, and you'd be marked as a conspiracy theorist for believing that happened, before it was made concretely true.

I think it's borderline naive to assume various agencies haven't infiltrated OpenAI, Anthropic and others, essentially the entire world was wiretapped by NSA in the past, to assume they don't have an employee or two at these companies does seem a bit naive to me.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by throwaw12 »

stickfigure wrote: post #72
eloisant wrote: post #66

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I agree, but the same goes for the US. Remember Echelon.

It's highly improbable that the US government has a secret team inside Anthropic and OpenAI manipulating their training regimen. For better or worse, these companies are filled with ideologues and something that invasive would trigger an army of whistleblowers (despite legal consequences).

> secret team inside Anthropic and OpenAI manipulating their training regimen

You don't need a secret team to manipulate whats coming from them: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-chatgpt/

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by flakiness »

I'm using pi agent and love to try qwen models (hosted). What are the good options? The official provider doesn't include Alibaba. Is OpenRouter etc. fast enough?

(As a reference, DeepSeek v4 is severely throttled on these proxy services.)

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by simple10 »

barbacoa wrote: post #121
throwaw12 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you recommend for non-Mac setup? I am a Mac user, but its getting expensive, and not seeing reason to jump to the latest M5

Try looking into Ryzen AI Max 395. AMD made a CPU/GPU soc with unified memory specifically for ai inference. Can buy mini PCs with up to 128gb ram.

The Ryzen AI Max 395 128gb is super cool, but not fast for inference. Order of magnitude slower than dedicated GPU but at half the cost. You can run larger models on it but it's slow. Great for local async work. Not great for daily chat or code agent driver.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by rlt »

gslepak wrote: post #115
goldenarm wrote: post #61

The non-hallucination rate in AA-omniscience is SOTA, better than Opus 4.7, Gemini 3.1 Pro and GPT5.5! Congrats to the team

> The non-hallucination rate in AA-omniscience is SOTA Note that a perfect "non-hallucination rate" is rather meaningless as such tests can contain human hallucinations. It means the model aligns with the possibly-true, possibly-false beliefs of the group that made the test.

Well, yes, garbage in garbage out. That's a given and not what's meant by "hallucination" in this context.

Re: Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier

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Post by tmoravec »

tekacs wrote: post #25

As they start to release more proprietary models, I so wish that they partnered with one of the major US hyperscalers to allow using these models through something US-domiciled. Totally understand why it may not be reasonable or in their best interest (and that the US is _absolutely_ not doing the same reflexively). But it would be lovely to be able to try these out on production workloads in earnest.

Qwen3.6-Plus is available from Fireworks.
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